Utah, Florida CCW renewal after MD CCW denial

swinokur · Jun 13, 2015

I put nothing. I did the online renewal for 15.75. Took 10 minutes. had my new permit in 7 days.

If you are ever asked if you've been denied, saying no would not be inaccurate or untruthful IMO.

IANAL.

swinokur · Jun 13, 2015

press1280 said:
FWIW-Maine didn't deny me after being denied by NJ for lack of "justifiable need". It specifically asks on the application.

did they ask the reason for the denial?

Schipperke · Jun 13, 2015

swinokur said:
I would expect anything less from the Capt.

I'm serious. He emailed a withdrawal , never got any response. If he is applying for a different state, he's never been disproved, denied or nuttin by the People's Republic.

swinokur · Jun 13, 2015

see how I could misinterpret your post based on your rep?

:lol2:

jmcgonig · Jun 13, 2015

Schipperke said:
I'm serious. He emailed a withdrawal , never got any response. If he is applying for a different state, he's never been disproved, denied or nuttin by the People's Republic.

I looked at my history. The last thing I got a letter saying that unless I provide G&S in 30 days I would be denied. That's when I sent in the withdrawl of my application (May 2013). Never got anything to indicate denied, so it sounds like it was filed in the waste basket instead.

FWIW, I specifically asked "Because of that, I am requesting that my application be withdrawn or canceled if possible instead of being denied. I understand that the application fees will not be returned."

Not sure if I should call and check or not. I guess I have another year or so before I have to worry about it.

swinokur · Jun 13, 2015

No letter=no denial or disapproval either. I'd check to see if one was mailed to you just to CYA.

But iANAL either.

press1280 · Jun 13, 2015

swinokur said:
did they ask the reason for the denial?

They asked (on the application) the agency and date of any denials. I wrote in the "lack of justifiable need" just so it wouldn't slow down my app because they wanted to call and clarify. I got the permit quick, so obviously it didn't cause an issue for them, although it was sort of a renewal(my old one actually expired). The new card used the same number as the old one though.

swinokur · Jun 13, 2015

ok gotcha.

sbmike · Jun 13, 2015

Thanks everyone. I'm glad that what appeared to be a hole in my foot turned out only to be a wart (I don't see so good anymore!). :lol2:

Gryphon · Jun 13, 2015

Schipperke said:
Have you noticed when the papers come back for a handgun purchase it is stamped "Not Disapproved". Don't mess with a good attorney, English is their tool. What some find arbitrary in language, perhaps should just be accepted as a lesson. You give two fine definitions, nothing arbitrary there.

Yes. Attorneys (and apparently the MSP statisticians) are wordsmiths by trade. I wasn't suggesting the choice of language is arbitrary, that's clearly not the case. Just that the MSP's determination of who is worthy is arbitrary once not disqualified/denied. You would think there would be "approved" and rejected." KISS. Yet the MSP has approved, not disapproved, and disqualified/prohibited and therefore denied. In a stupid way it actually makes sense if you have to defend denying the exercise of a fundamental right. I mean really, the MSP doesn't want to piss off all those folks that are qualified that they don't issue permits to. :rolleyes:

Anyway, the more "not disapproved" applications that are in system without a permit being issued the more moronic it gets.

Q: Bill, just how many "not disapproved" applications are actually in the file? A: Thousands Larry Q: Well Bill, how many those were issued permits? A: None Larry. Q: Doh! :facepalm:

Now I get it!

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