VA suppressor ban apparently removed!

davsco · Feb 10, 2020

woodline · Feb 10, 2020

Can you post the reply to your email? Hansohn Bros is trying to figure out if they are going to stay in business or not.

ETA thank you for what you are doing. I'm trying to email as many of them as I can, but I don't have time for calls. And I don't like to send form emails if I can. Pretty sure those get ignored.

Muleskinner · Feb 10, 2020

I'll take a hard pass...Removing one of the infringements is their way of extending an olive branch...Screw that...

fred55 · Feb 10, 2020

I have been calling and emailing. I’ll be in Richmond tomorrow for HB961’s third reading. House meeting starts at 11:00am and I’m told there is not a scheduled time for the bills, anytime 11:00-16:00. I have already emailed the full senate if this abomination shows up to vote no. There is a chance the senate will stop it. But don’t give up the calls and email. fred55

woodline · Feb 10, 2020

Muleskinner said:
I'll take a hard pass...Removing one of the infringements is their way of extending an olive branch...Screw that...

100% agree. Still going to lobby my people to vote against it. Been trying to be nice. If this garbage makes it to the senate I'm going to straight up tell my state senator if she votes for it I'm going to do everything I can to get her primaried.

davsco · Feb 10, 2020

fbi_surveillance_van said:
Can you post the reply to your email?
And I don't like to send form emails if I can. Pretty sure those get ignored.

he just said the suppressor ban has been removed.

i do all the form emails from vcdl, nra, goa, etc, but i ALSO send personalized emails. i let them know i do a bunch of shooting competitions, lots of wives, sons and daughters attend, and the bills would kill all of these. also mention that rkba is so precious that both us and va have it in their constitutions. also mention we're the most vetted group around, with background checks on most purchases, carry permits, etc.

davsco · Feb 10, 2020

Muleskinner said:
I'll take a hard pass...Removing one of the infringements is their way of extending an olive branch...Screw that...

i'm definitely not suggesting we stand down, but it is nice to have one line item removed and i think it shows they're listening, at least a little.

when i emailed all the delegates, i included a link for the youtube where levine was trying to explain assault weapons, and doing a horrible job.

rouchna · Feb 10, 2020

The ban has NOT been removed. The only thing that changed is that as long as you own one before the ban, you are grandfathered in. You get to keep your suppressor. This whole bill is pure infringement.
I have been blowing up their phones and their inboxes. I’m not giving up and I’m also not turning in or disposing of a G@d damned thing.

davsco · Feb 10, 2020

rouchna said:
The ban has NOT been removed. The only thing that changed is that as long as you own one before the ban, you are grandfathered in. You get to keep your suppressor.

he said 'removed.' i'll check in the morning, and if it's simply grandfathered he will def hear from me.

fred55 · Feb 10, 2020

I have not heard a peep from Levine. I’m probably on his block list by now :mad54:

fred55

davsco · Feb 10, 2020

well, i'm not seeing any amendments re suppressors, but it does seem they may be lightening the 'hicap' magazine section, go down to the bottom:

AMENDMENT(S) PROPOSED BY THE HOUSE

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+cab+HC10210HB0961+RCHB2

davsco · Feb 10, 2020

fred55 said:
I have not heard a peep from Levine. I’m probably on his block list by now fred55

i've emailed all the delegates and senators many, many times over this crap. levine is only the 2nd person to get back to me. obviously most of them (including levine) are not in my district, so surely they feel zero obligation to get back to me.

krucam · Feb 10, 2020

Mark Levine is an ass...

AssMan · Feb 10, 2020

davsco said:
well, i'm not seeing any amendments re suppressors, but it does seem they may be lightening the 'hicap' magazine section, go down to the bottom:

AMENDMENT(S) PROPOSED BY THE HOUSE

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+cab+HC10210HB0961+RCHB2

I'm not sure if those are being proposed or were already proposed and rejected? Regardless, nothing notable there. So you can possess but not transport? That doesn't really work. I guess lowering it from a Class 6 felony to a misdemeanor is something. Not much, but something... :rolleyes:

I'll be calling my senator (Deeds) tomorrow. Apparently he's on the fence.

davsco · Feb 10, 2020

all i'm saying is it seems they are making a few changes based on our feedback. help them make changes by not just saying 'no' but by showing them where their line items are wrong or stupid. and they don't gaf about 2a so that's not enough to tell them (but i still do). cite crime stats (bmore & chicago with worst rules and worst crime), cite spouses, sons and daughters that would be affected by gun bans or restrictions, etc, cite competitions that would be shut down, etc.

i cite the magazine flange as an example. those ignorants had no idea how pervasive that prohibition would be. i'm sure others did also, but i pointed out that pretty much every magazine, including lo-cap, rimfire, bolt guns, etc have them so they'd be banning EVERY magazine. that section got dropped.

fred55 · Feb 11, 2020

I have been highlighting their districts residing in a 2A Sanctuary County; they are making felons of their constituents; and their voters will remember and be reminded; and the lunacy of their bills. I am not giving them ideas on how to make a POS bill better or acceptable. ...shall not be infringed... Murder is illegal, there are already laws to cover abuse of firearms, which is what criminals are doing. fred55

davsco · Feb 11, 2020

all i'm saying is if you're going to take the time to contact the house or senate, just telling them 'no' ain't doing much. most folks are at least a little receptive to ideas if you explain why they should be changed, or why they should go away.

fred55 · Feb 11, 2020

In VA Capitol house keeping first. During recess I was interviewed by channel 6 and 8 news. They saw the WWNC shirt and headed straight to me. fred55

davsco · Feb 11, 2020

fred55 said:
In VA Capitol house keeping first. During recess I was interviewed by channel 6 and 8 news. They saw the WWNC shirt and headed straight to me. fred55

that is AWESOME! super props to you and everyone else that is going the extra distance.

do you have any specific things they added, changed or removed from your talking with them (question applies to all those that have met the politicians)? would be great to hear what if anything works and what gets deaf ears.

did you hear them discuss hb619 and if so what all was said/discussed/dismissed?

fred55 · Feb 11, 2020

HB961 passes the house. Next stop is the senate. Hopefully it is defeated there. If not, hold on to your hats. fred55

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