Assualt Pistol

Chris05STi · Dec 17, 2013

I have been searching and talking to shops and people and get mixed answers. I have a bunch of lowers that I got pre Oct 1. I want to get them built and was thinking of getting a pistol upper (5.56 chambered) and wanted to use the Sig SB15 brace, thus building an assault pistol NOT a SBR. This is still legal to do correct? Any upper that has a barrel shorter than overal 16" can be either a Assault Pistol with a pistol buffer tube and/or the Sig SB15 brace OR if you put a stock it becomes a SBR correct? Any help/advice is greatly appreciated!!!

armed ferret · Dec 17, 2013

whom do you plan on assaulting with your pistol?

probably not a good idea to discuss such intentions publicly.

i'll maintain my hope that your use of the term "assault pistol" is due to ignorance, and not intent.

Inigoes · Dec 17, 2013

That is not building an assault pistol, you are building a regular handgun albeit rifle calibered.

Assault pistols are specifically named by MD law.

If you attach a vertical foregrip onto said pistol, it will become an AOW, which is considered a NFA device such as a SBR.

Chris05STi · Dec 17, 2013

No thats what I was told they were called. I just called them 5.56 pistols.

armed ferret · Dec 17, 2013

if someone told you jumping off the bay bridge was a good idea, would you accept it as fact?

not bein a dick, just trying to educate. if your feelers get hurt, grab your purse and find a kleenex and i'll move along.

Wayne1one · Dec 17, 2013

Chris05STi said:
No thats what I was told they were called. I just called them 5.56 pistols.

You been talking to the media?

Inigoes · Dec 17, 2013

Chris05STi said:
No thats what I was told they were called. I just called them 5.56 pistols.

Whomever informed you, is ill-informed.

You can build AR15 pistols to your hearts content. The caveat which you already know: Attaching a Stock or a "vertical" foregrip will require NFA approval.

Note: angled fore-grips do not make the handgun as NFA device.

DoubleTap007 · Dec 17, 2013

I've never heard of a pistol assaulting someone.

In order to build a AR Pistol, you need to have a lower that was registered as Type "O", for other. It must also have a pistol buffer, and no vertical forward grip.

Chris05STi · Dec 17, 2013

^Thanks. No I was not talking to the media. Would the Magpul AFG be acceptable? I know from what I researched that it was fine on AR15 Pistols but like you mentioned a 'vertical' foregrip is not.

Inigoes · Dec 17, 2013

Chris05STi said:
Would the Magpul AFG be acceptable?

Yes

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/ATF Response - AFG on AR Pistol.pdf

Here is the The BATFE approval of SIG's stabilizing brace also:

http://sigsauer.com/upFiles/ATF-Compliant-Letter.pdf

Chris05STi · Dec 17, 2013

^THANKS!

Mooseman · Dec 17, 2013

I don't get the Sig brace thing. It reminds me of a movie, Edward Pistolhands. That is just me. To each their own.

Chris05STi · Dec 17, 2013

Its better for me than the pistol tube. Plus some of the cost of the purchase goes to disabled vets.

Inigoes · Dec 17, 2013

Mooseman said:
I don't get the Sig brace thing. It reminds me of a movie, Edward Pistolhands. That is just me. To each their own.

It is the same draw as the chin NSN (No Stock Needed)

DoubleTap007 · Dec 17, 2013

Chris05STi said:
Its better for me than the pistol tube. Plus some of the cost of the purchase goes to disabled vets.

Not sure what you mean here in terms of better than a pistol tube.

You still need to use a pistol tube, you can not use a rifle buffer tube.

The concept is that you can not have the ability to easily put a stock on and off. So you can not use a standard 6 position buffer tube. You must use a pistol tube that does not allow a stock to have the ability to be attached.

Chris05STi · Dec 17, 2013

But the Sig SB15 can be used incorrectly as a stock.

Inigoes · Dec 17, 2013

Chris05STi said:
But the Sig SB15 can be used incorrectly as a stock.

The difference.

The SIG item has been blessed by the BATFE.

Mooseman · Dec 17, 2013

Chris05STi said:
But the Sig SB15 can be used incorrectly as a stock.

So can a pistol buffer tube.

niftyvt · Dec 17, 2013

You can use a regular old carbine buffer tube to make an AR pistol. You dont have to use a pistol specific buffer tube.

Sticky · Dec 17, 2013

Chris05STi said:
But the Sig SB15 can be used incorrectly as a stock.

It is not considered a 'shoulderable' stock, so it passes the test, for now... lol

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