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Old June 7th, 2021, 07:18 AM #21
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Just since you mentioned buying a couple more CMP Garands might perhaps be money better spent than on one of these Midway M1 Carbines.
Obama killed the online surplus market. I'm at the point where I don't buy sight unseen anymore, except from CMP . Online sellers have taken quite a few liberties in their interpretations of good, fine and excellent. MidwayUSA has a wonderful reputation and I use to get a C&R discount from them. Classic had a good rep too, until they didn't.

This is what good, fine and excellent should mean:
http://www.nramuseum.org/gun-info-re...condition.aspx
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What they show does not have the flip up rear sight.
A gunsmith working for the importer sorting them has posted a lot of pictures on Facebook. A lot have flip sights, but a lot also have adjustable sights on WWII wood and barrel bands.

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Anyone have any idea where these came from?
Italian Carabinieri. A thread on Gunboards had a US Customs entry for the shipment and it said a bit over 3k of them.
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Anyone have any idea where these came from?
IIRC they're from stores of the Italian Carabinieri (paramilitary police) that were put into storage in the mid 1950s. The story of exactly how they got into Italian hands is murky.
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Sold out! Contrary to our opinions, the market thought the prices were just fine.
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Over the weekend at the Gettysburg Gun Show there were Carbines without import marks for less...not necessarily in the best condition or more rare manufacturers, but all still sub-$2k by a fair amount. I think Carbine barrels without import stamps have just taken a jump in value and will end up on the M1s that Midway has sold. That...and flippers are already writing their Gunbroker auctions up and waiting for delivery from Midway so they can get quick photos so the auctions can go active.
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I have a really nice Inland without import marks.
Purchased from the Omaha Police.
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Sadly, I predict these will sell out within a few days...
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I'm not surprised. I hope more than one speculator gets stung
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Obama killed the online surplus market. I'm at the point where I don't buy sight unseen anymore, except from CMP . Online sellers have taken quite a few liberties in their interpretations of good, fine and excellent. MidwayUSA has a wonderful reputation and I use to get a C&R discount from them. Classic had a good rep too, until they didn't.

This is what good, fine and excellent should mean:
http://www.nramuseum.org/gun-info-re...condition.aspx
Classic firearms is such a garbage website. I purchased a 1903A3 from them about a year ago. Condition "excellent". The wood and metal was ok-ish, but the barrel was a sedgley USMC marked re-bent barrel. The bore looked like a smoothbore musket. Got my money back and I've never looked there again. There are still gems on gunbroker that pop up from time to time
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The Midway M1s sold out in 18 minutes. I timed it. Within 6 minutes the non-Inland and Winchesters were either gone or down to a handful available. Strangely the Underwoods stuck around for a bit before going out of stock. The Rock-Olas went first. No surprise there. I was after an IBM-made rifle and I got one. Those were sold out about two minutes after my order was placed successfully at 9:04am. You could tell Midway's site was getting slammed.

I received the shipping notice last night about an hour after the e-mail saying my 03 FFL was approved. I am told to expect the rifle Friday. Then I will find out what "Very Good to Fine" means.

I have an Inland I bought 10ish years ago. Mismatched but I got it for $525 back then. I'd kill for those prices now.

I'm not speculating on the rifle as I am looking to keep it. I am a tech geek and any tech geek who writes code and plays with M1 Carbines is going to want an IBM-made rifle in the safe. I'll take the Inland to the range and keep the IBM rifle for special occasions and to add to the retirement stock. Remember, they aren't making these things anymore and haven't for 70+ years. While Inlands are rather dime-a-dozen rifles, the other makes not so much and getting rarer by the year. I see far fewer of a lot of collectible rifles out there than I used to a decade ago.

If the rifle meets the grading criteria then I won't feel cheated or that I overpaid at all. The handful of IBM carbines I've seen had price tags well north of $1800 and in about the same condition as my Inland. I think the Rock-Olas were a bargain and I thought hard about a National Postal Meter or an Underwood. The latter for their reputed accuracy over other M1s.

I guess we all bring our perceptions to the table. I think I got lucky in getting the rifle at all. While the idea of a complete collection of each M1 Carbine make appeals to me, I think I'm a little too late or need much deeper pockets to pull it off. Having an IBM-marked rifle makes me happy it is the safe as a little piece of history for me to enjoy for a while before it moves on to the next owner.

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