New CMP Garand Limit

Oldcarjunkie · Sep 20, 2016

Got this in a email today, It was 12 for the last few years. As of today it is now 8 per year..

rdc · Sep 20, 2016

I haven't bought 8 total so not a big deal to me.

SKIP · Sep 20, 2016

rdc said:
I haven't bought 8 total so not a big deal to me.

I purchased mine from the old DCM in 1970 for $165. How prices have changed.

GunnyHwy · Sep 20, 2016

Not much to choose from these days. I can live with the new limit.

BuildnBurn · Sep 20, 2016

When I got mine in 87 from the DCM it was one per lifetime. I have two now as my Dad had gotten one too

Oldcarjunkie · Sep 20, 2016

SKIP said:
I purchased mine from the old DCM in 1970 for $165. How prices have changed.

I hear ya. And even higher on auctions. Seen a auction where someone paid 1400 for a CMP rifle on gunbroker.. Some folks just dont pay Attention they can get them for half that. :sad20:

altima98 · Sep 20, 2016

I just want one decent one and I would be happy

lkenefic · Sep 20, 2016

Oldcarjunkie said:
I hear ya. And even higher on auctions. Seen a auction where someone paid 1400 for a CMP rifle on gunbroker.. Some folks just dont pay Attention they can get them for half that.

...and that's what has fueled the "market"... people buying from CMP and flipping them on Gunbroker or at shows... handsome profit! Or, tax on the stupid...

rbird7282 · Sep 21, 2016

I bought one, that's enough for me

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Oldcarjunkie · Sep 21, 2016

lkenefic said:
...and that's what has fueled the "market"... people buying from CMP and flipping them on Gunbroker or at shows... handsome profit! Or, tax on the stupid...

Well eventually the CMP will indeed run out. when that day comes, M1 Garand's will go up. Its hard to say how much but i expect by a few hundred. I have a few Now and Have a Order in with the CMP this year. I saved for the last two years and i am now trying to complete the M1 Garand collections with the 4 Makers. I just need to buy a nice IHC at this point. But finding a nice one that is not overpriced is the trick.

K31 · Sep 21, 2016

Well, you can't become a hardcore super collector at that rate for 3 years! I thought this was America!

Melnic · Sep 21, 2016

SKIP said:
I purchased mine from the old DCM in 1970 for $165. How prices have changed.

That was expensive!
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=165&year1=1970&year2=2016

mopar92 · Sep 21, 2016

Serious question. With repro 1911's long being a thing, repro M1 Carbines now being a good quality thing and recovered 03 and 03A3 drill rifles being made all to a good standard, why isn't anyone making M1 Garand repros? Yes, yes, collectability blah, blah, blah but it would likely be a good avenue for those entering the sport that want a lower cost option without having having to invest about $200 in books and tools to determine the condition and value of a rifle.

Melnic · Sep 21, 2016

mopar92 said:
Serious question. With repro 1911's long being a thing, repro M1 Carbines now being a good quality thing and recovered 03 and 03A3 drill rifles being made all to a good standard, why isn't anyone making M1 Garand repros? Yes, yes, collectability blah, blah, blah but it would likely be a good avenue for those entering the sport that want a lower cost option without having having to invest about $200 in books and tools to determine the condition and value of a rifle.

Maybe they have not been able to make an M1 Garand repro for less $?
James river's M1 Carbine Repro (they manufactured new recievers) were about $1000 a few years ago.

I think people are instead buying an M1A because they want the magazine.

Blacksmith101 · Sep 21, 2016

mopar92 said:
Serious question. With repro 1911's long being a thing, repro M1 Carbines now being a good quality thing and recovered 03 and 03A3 drill rifles being made all to a good standard, why isn't anyone making M1 Garand repros? Yes, yes, collectability blah, blah, blah but it would likely be a good avenue for those entering the sport that want a lower cost option without having having to invest about $200 in books and tools to determine the condition and value of a rifle.

When the CMP runs out and the prices jump someone probably will. At this time you can buy a service grade from the CMP for $730 which artificially holds all the prices down and still most non CMP sales seem to be in the $1000 - $1500 range and more for collectables. My guess is when the CMP finally says "No More Garands" those prices will jump to something like $1200 - $2000. Just look at what they are asking in Cabela's Gun Library and someone seems to be buying them. When the prices get high enough for someone to make a profit you will see repros.

Oldcarjunkie · Sep 22, 2016

Blacksmith101 said:
When the CMP runs out and the prices jump someone probably will. At this time you can buy a service grade from the CMP for $730 which artificially holds all the prices down and still most non CMP sales seem to be in the $1000 - $1500 range and more for collectables. My guess is when the CMP finally says "No More Garands" those prices will jump to something like $1200 - $2000. Just look at what they are asking in Cabela's Gun Library and someone seems to be buying them. When the prices get high enough for someone to make a profit you will see repros.

Those estimates would be Nice, but im thinking 1500 average in 5 years..

nmyers · Sep 23, 2016

I think that you guys may have underestimated the future prices of M1 rifles. CMP got M1's that we had loaned to Greece & Denmark, but they are gone. Commercial importation of USGI rifles (& parts) was banned by Clinton/Gore in the 1990's. I'm guessing that those currently being offered by CMP are turn-ins from veterans organizations.

I don't know the percentage, but many of the currently available rifles have new commercial wood &/or barrels. They may be good shooters, but not really the same as an arsenal rebuild.

The last attempt at commercial repros was by Springfield Armory Inc about 30 years ago. They assembled used USGI parts on newly manufactured receivers. Only a few thousand were made; there were problems due to receiver failure. And, USGI parts kits dried up. No one can afford to make a forged, milled, & hardened receiver today, & the design of the rifle requires a really strong & precisely milled receiver. Not like the M1 carbine, which fires a handgun-type cartridge. Plus, many of the rifle USGI small parts are forged & milled.

joppaj · Sep 23, 2016

I seem to recall Springfield was making new ones as recently as 8 or 9 years ago.

platoonDaddy · Sep 23, 2016

That is the way I felt, then decided, spend the extra money and get one updated by Charlie.

Harrington & Richardson, Excellent condition receiver. Like new on GI gage.
New Criterion match quality barrel in .30-06
New walnut stock set, fitted and finished.
All parts in new or like new condition.
Dark Parkerizing
All new springs and pins.
National Match trigger
Tight assembly
All safety, timing, and function tests.
Legal for all C&R and John C. Garand matches.

rdc · Sep 23, 2016

I think the prices will rise when CMP dries up but not a whole lot. Or they will spoke then correct themselves once people start selling off their collections to make money. There are lots of garand hoarders out there.

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