JerseyMike
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It was sarcasm on my part. I assume braces will go once Biden gets in though so I’m not saying he’ll be any better on this issue.
ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
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It was sarcasm on my part. I assume braces will go once Biden gets in though so I’m not saying he’ll be any better on this issue.
Rob R.
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My gut tells me absolutely yes it’s then completely legal but I am IANAL
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randomuser
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I wouldn't count on the courts to "save us".
I'm actually hoping for 30 round standard mags to be banned. Only when we are all felons will we have one loud voice. Until then, people won't care because "I don't have that gun". People seem to be ok with hanging separately.
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"We Must Hang Together Or Surely We Shall Hang Separately"
Nickberg500
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If anyone's looking for a direct way to ask Trump to reign in the ATF:
https://gunowners.org/na10072020/
https://gunowners.org/na10072020/
Kicken Wing
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The hanging separately part is a big problem. Getting people to just pay attention and act is hard to do.
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The question is ALWAYS “is this the issue I want to hang for?”
Honey Badger ain’t it.
pidevildog07
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You guys are a hoot!!
pcfixer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJEHb5H37Do
Very good video between Alex Bosco owner of SB tactical and Colion Noir must watch
About 5 minute point Alex telling about political hacks in ATF leadership to frustrate 4 million gun owners against President Trump
Very good video between Alex Bosco owner of SB tactical and Colion Noir must watch
About 5 minute point Alex telling about political hacks in ATF leadership to frustrate 4 million gun owners against President Trump
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The right response for this is to say the ATF hates people with disabilities. Force them to explain why possessing guns which make shooting safely practical for people with disabilities is worthy of a felony and any company that tries to help should be shuttered.
They picked Q because it doesn’t have deep pockets for an army of lawyers or a large Gov contract. They don’t even have that many customers. The picked Q to set a precedent.
This is the very worst of their worst. Frankly all they really have to do is create uncertainty. Braces are mostly bought by people who have a basic understanding of the rules and have something to lose if they get caught breaking them. That type of person won't risk buying something that the ATF could change their mind on next week without explanation.
They picked Q because it doesn’t have deep pockets for an army of lawyers or a large Gov contract. They don’t even have that many customers. The picked Q to set a precedent.
This is the very worst of their worst. Frankly all they really have to do is create uncertainty. Braces are mostly bought by people who have a basic understanding of the rules and have something to lose if they get caught breaking them. That type of person won't risk buying something that the ATF could change their mind on next week without explanation.
The problem with laws is they are constantly being interpreted. In the courts.
The problem with regulations is they’re broad, vague and subject to myriad Interpretations where opportunity for infringement is epic.
The problem with regulations is they’re broad, vague and subject to myriad Interpretations where opportunity for infringement is epic.
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The trouble with lawmakers is that the above is intentional. Laws are written to be vague, and responsibility for interpretation is handed off to the regulators because the legislators lack the grit and the wit to take a firm stand. Kick it down the road and make the courts try to interpret what the legislators intend.
10point
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This is a retail weapon right I/E honey badger ,what if you build your own are you subject to the same ********. Would only use for home protection.
Ask the ATF. J/k, don’t do that.
This is the problem with braces being in a legal gray area that is also heavily political. Personally I would do nothing, as I think the ATF is going to end up regretting doing this, even if things don’t go Q’s way. If you’re really worried about it, get people to take some pictures of you firing it with the brace strapped to your arm. Prob won’t help much but it’ll make for good TV if you get charged.
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Washington Examiner has a blurb on it too... https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ve-could-turn-3m-to-4m-gun-owners-into-felons
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