New Tokarev Book is out...

somd_mustangs · Jan 27, 2021

Finally, the new book on the Tokarev by Cameron White is shipping out. Got my copy today and it's chock full of info and lots of detailed color pictures. Covers from pre-TT-30 up through the Norinco and Yugo copies. If you collect these, it's well worth the $40 and will be an invaluable reference. Two drawbacks - soft cover and printed in China. Size is about 8.5x11" and 224 pages (deceptive because he crams a lot of stuff into each page).

https://gunandswordcollector.com/product/tokarev-pistols/

Bob A · Jan 27, 2021

Ordered, thanks for the heads-up.

CodeWarrior1241 · Jan 27, 2021

Hilarious... it's like writing a book about Yugos.

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tallen702 · Jan 27, 2021

I always cringe at the price of new reference books on firearms, but not nearly as much as I cringe at the price 5 years later when I didn't buy it new and now it's 10x as much for a used copy.

IronEye · Jan 28, 2021

Ordered - thanks for the head's up.

And ditto on trying to find a copy of a gun book when it is out of print. They skyrocket.

Bob A · Jan 28, 2021

tallen702 said:
I always cringe at the price of new reference books on firearms, but not nearly as much as I cringe at the price 5 years later when I didn't buy it new and now it's 10x as much for a used copy.

Yup.

That's the thing about reference books; low print runs, seldom if ever reprinted, must-have information for collectors/dealers who look deeper than the surface. Those who know have a distinct edge over those who don't know.

This is not limited to firearms references. It's true across the board.

tallen702 · Jan 28, 2021

Bit the bullet and ordered so I won't regret not doing so later. Thanks for the heads up!

somd_mustangs · Jan 28, 2021

Look at the Potocki Colt 1905 Military book... not rare at all, and you could buy 'em all day long for $20-30 a couple years ago.
For some reason they shot up to $200-300 in the past year. Or Jan Still's books, or Clawson... holy schnikey!
I don't think this one will be like that, but the way I look at it, buying books will always save you money in the long run!

namrelio · Jan 28, 2021

somd-mustangs, I'm getting a book and didn't even have to buy it. I talked my son into getting one and giving it to me for my birthday, or next Christmas. I hope I forget all about it by then.

Thanks for posting.

somd_mustangs · Jan 28, 2021

heh, heh, that's the best way

Combloc · Jan 28, 2021

CodeWarrior1241 said:
Hilarious... it's like writing a book about Yugos.

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Please elaborate.

Bertfish · Jan 28, 2021

CodeWarrior1241 said:
Hilarious... it's like writing a book about Yugos.

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Sure if Yugos had a dedicated collecting base all over the world as well as a deep history. But sure otherwise just the same

CodeWarrior1241 · Jan 28, 2021

Combloc said:
Please elaborate.

Look, don't get me wrong, people have interests, that's great.

In the Tok's homeland, back in the day when growing up, what everyone wanted were Japanese cars, Swiss watches and 1911s. That was _class_.

A book about Toks to someone over there feels like a book, with research, illustrations, data gathering about something so _banal_ it's not worth writing about. An AKM or a T-34 changed the world and we knew this... But the Tok is just some pot metal they churned out, with the bare minimum of consideration towards functionality. Or at least that's what many thought.

It's like a book about Khrushev sausages. Surely you could, but why???

Combloc · Jan 28, 2021

Okiedokie.

Bertfish · Jan 28, 2021

CodeWarrior1241 said:
Look, don't get me wrong, people have interests, that's great.

In the Tok's homeland, back in the day when growing up, what everyone wanted were Japanese cars, Swiss watches and 1911s. That was _class_.

A book about Toks to someone over there feels like a book, with research, illustrations, data gathering about something so _banal_ it's not worth writing about. An AKM or a T-34 changed the world and we knew this... But the Tok is just some pot metal they churned out, with the bare minimum of consideration towards functionality. Or at least that's what many thought.

It's like a book about Khrushev sausages. Surely you could, but why???

Part of why they're so interesting it because they were never meant to be. And who says a TT didnt change the world?

Like the Liberator

Like people who catalog all the correct combinations of M1 carbine parts

CodeWarrior1241 · Jan 28, 2021

Bertfish said:
Part of why they're so interesting it because they were never meant to be.

That makes sense. Explains a lot of interest in historical everyday things of all kinds.

Imagine a person from back in the day though: "you bought a book about _what_?!?!?"

mawkie · Jan 29, 2021

When I was a young pup Finnish Mosins were off collector's radar, just another of millions of MNs built over decades. Then two enterprising gentlemen started a website that focused hard on all MNs but really tunneled deep into all things Finn and Katy bar the door. IMHO they single-handedly jump started the Finn collector craze via Gunboards (RIP Tuco). In 1985 who would have thought anyone would pay $2k or more for any Mosin Nagant?
So often it's a book or website and the knowledge it imparts that sparks interest. I have no doubt Toks will eventually take their rightful place in all things of historical interest. They've got a tale to tell too!

IronEye · Feb 2, 2021

Book arrived today.

54rndball · Feb 7, 2021

Man At Arms also has a book “Communist Bloc Handguns” covering Toks, Maks, CZ82s, P64s, etc.

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IronEye · Feb 9, 2021

IronEye said:
Book arrived today.

I finished reading through the book. It is heavily geared toward collectors who will delight in the numerous and detailed photos of all the variations. Pictures of each year of production, closeups of the various little stamps, discussions of interesting variations, etc.

Many more pictures and much clearer than the Fred Datig book. Also covers Bulgarian, North Korean, Polish, Yugoslavian, Chinese, Romanian and Pakistani variants.

There is very little on the historical usage of the gun, effectiveness, strengths/weaknesses when compared with contemporaries, etc.

All-in-all a very nice book - but maybe not for everybody.

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