Mountaineers, it's time to hammer Manchin:

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  • tallen702

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    With Dems essentially controlling the senate at this point thanks to the 50/50 split with Harris being the tie-breaker, it's incredibly important for all West Virginians to hammer Manchin non-stop and make it 1000% clear that him voting for any and all gun-control legislation will cost him his job, his future, and his legacy. He doesn't have to vote against it, he merely needs to abstain. There are centrist Dems in other red states that need to have their feet held to the fire as well, but all it takes is one to abstain or vote against gun control legislation to keep it from passing.

    Set up an automated email that goes out every day or every week, or even randomly a few times a month. Call his office on your way home from work, print up a bunch of envelopes with his office's address on them, stuff them all with the same form letter, and mail them out once a week. Do whatever it takes, but dog him night and day until the GOP either regains control of the senate or the house.

    He is the lynchpin in all of this. Make him feel the pressure.
     

    PlumberEd

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    I was thinking the same think. We are really going to need Manchin’s vote to prevent the liberals crazy ideas becoming law. Do you think we can depend on him? I’m doubtful.
     

    tallen702

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    I was thinking the same think. We are really going to need Manchin’s vote to prevent the liberals crazy ideas becoming law. Do you think we can depend on him? I’m doubtful.

    I think what you can depend on is his desire to remain in his position. He's been in long enough to start having some seniority, and while he's not the go-getter that Capito is in terms of seeking positions on powerful committees, he's comfortable in the sense that he's got a cushy job that, for the past 4 years or so, hasn't required him to do much. Now, the heat is going to be on him. The Majority leader and whip will be on him like white on rice to toe the party line. Meanwhile, his constituency will be on him to keep any crap laws from passing that would affect the way of life that mountaineers have been living for two-and-a-half centuries. He has to be shown that of the two options, pissing off the Dem establishment, or pissing off his constituents, that pissing off the establishment and maybe getting yelled at by Schumer is the less-detrimental of the two to his continued comfort.
     

    sbmike

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    I will be writing Manchin in the coming weeks. One thing I am going to remind him about is that in WV, dems lost to reps in most, if not all, state and local races. That does not bode well for him for the mid-term election in 2022. As has been stated, he will do whatever it takes to stay in his cushy Capitol Hill job. He just needs to be reminded repeatedly that how he votes will have a great deal to do with how long he stays there.
     

    Tactikool

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    I'm less worried about him than the squishy Rs honestly

    Collins, Murkowski, Toomey, Romney. Etc etc.

    This is the unfortunate truth. Toomey especially since he announced he is not running for for re-election in 2022.

    Tester in Montana is another D that could possibly be pressured. I also imagine that the two new Georgia Ds will face a lot of pressure to vote against any gun control measure.
     

    Occam

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    This is the unfortunate truth. Toomey especially since he announced he is not running for for re-election in 2022.

    Tester in Montana is another D that could possibly be pressured. I also imagine that the two new Georgia Ds will face a lot of pressure to vote against any gun control measure.

    Tester might be reasoned with. It's Montana, after all. But those two new clowns in Georgia will wear their gun grabbing and every other flavor of anti-liberty legislation with great pride. Lost causes, there.
     

    adit

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    I will be writing Manchin in the coming weeks. One thing I am going to remind him about is that in WV, dems lost to reps in most, if not all, state and local races. That does not bode well for him for the mid-term election in 2022. As has been stated, he will do whatever it takes to stay in his cushy Capitol Hill job. He just needs to be reminded repeatedly that how he votes will have a great deal to do with how long he stays there.

    Have at it but Manchin isn't up for reelection until 2024.
     

    sbmike

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    I believe that will be his only hope of remaining in office past 2024.

    Yikes! Didn't realize he was a six year termer! Major bummer but still on my radar to keep reminding him he should be representing our (WV) wishes and not his Democratic handlers'. First email was sent to him yesterday reminding him of this, although with four years to go, it will certainly not have the impact it would have if it were only two.
     

    bcr229

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    Jul 15, 2011
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    Forget Manchin. At least our state legislature is the most conservative than it's been in decades. We need to push for laws that will help keep WV free.

    I've asked for ideas in a few other forums and got the following:
    - Increase penalties for voter fraud.
    - Tighter controls on mail-in voting (because like it or not, it's here to stay).
    - Better vetting of newly-registered voters.
    - Taxpayer Bill of Rights - Apparently Colorado had one and it did help keep the size/scope of government in check.
    - Urine or You're out - If you're a druggie on welfare, you can move to another state and use their taxpayer dollars to fund your habit.
     
    With Dems essentially controlling the senate at this point thanks to the 50/50 split with Harris being the tie-breaker, it's incredibly important for all West Virginians to hammer Manchin non-stop and make it 1000% clear that him voting for any and all gun-control legislation will cost him his job, his future, and his legacy. He doesn't have to vote against it, he merely needs to abstain. There are centrist Dems in other red states that need to have their feet held to the fire as well, but all it takes is one to abstain or vote against gun control legislation to keep it from passing.

    Set up an automated email that goes out every day or every week, or even randomly a few times a month. Call his office on your way home from work, print up a bunch of envelopes with his office's address on them, stuff them all with the same form letter, and mail them out once a week. Do whatever it takes, but dog him night and day until the GOP either regains control of the senate or the house.

    He is the lynchpin in all of this. Make him feel the pressure.

    It's not going to matter. One of the first orders of business that the new United States Congress will take up will be to give the territory of Puerto Rico statehood which will add to senators. Puerto Rico is dominated by Democrat politics so that will effectively give them a two-vote majority. They may even pad their majority further by giving statehood to Washington dc. Yes I understand that it would be unconstitutional to do so however to fix that all they need to do is add a few justices to the supreme court. I completely expect them to do that as well. They will stop at nothing to fundamentally change the United States from a free market society to a socialist one. That's where this is going
     

    tallen702

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    It's not going to matter. One of the first orders of business that the new United States Congress will take up will be to give the territory of Puerto Rico statehood which will add to senators. Puerto Rico is dominated by Democrat politics so that will effectively give them a two-vote majority. They may even pad their majority further by giving statehood to Washington dc. Yes I understand that it would be unconstitutional to do so however to fix that all they need to do is add a few justices to the supreme court. I completely expect them to do that as well. They will stop at nothing to fundamentally change the United States from a free market society to a socialist one. That's where this is going

    PR is off the table because PR doesn't want to be a state. It wouldn't pass down there. They can't stand on their own at all and absolutely need the extra funding that comes with being a territory vs full statehood.

    DC is the push, but DC is a tricky one. Precedence is set with the retrograde in the early 1800s that what is now DC would actually revert back to being MD. That would give the citizens the voting rights that they are supposedly clamoring for without actually violating the constitution. In regards to packing the courts, I kind of doubt it would have enough traction from Dems. There are enough who oppose it that I don't think it would pass.

    The only reason WV got a pass was due to the technicality that VA had seceded. What would become WV got together a bunch of delegates who then held that they were the legal and legitimate VA general assembly unlike those traitors in Richmond. The US government then recognized this new assembly as the legitimate assembly. This legally recognized new assembly voted to re-join the union and was admitted as a new state. It's very gray in terms of legality. DC statehood is black and white.
     

    slsc98

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    PR is off the table because PR doesn't want to be a state. It wouldn't pass down there. They can't stand on their own at all and absolutely need the extra funding that comes with being a territory vs full statehood.

    DC is the push, but DC is a tricky one. Precedence is set with the retrograde in the early 1800s that what is now DC would actually revert back to being MD. That would give the citizens the voting rights that they are supposedly clamoring for without actually violating the constitution. In regards to packing the courts, I kind of doubt it would have enough traction from Dems. There are enough who oppose it that I don't think it would pass.

    The only reason WV got a pass was due to the technicality that VA had seceded. What would become WV got together a bunch of delegates who then held that they were the legal and legitimate VA general assembly unlike those traitors in Richmond. The US government then recognized this new assembly as the legitimate assembly. This legally recognized new assembly voted to re-join the union and was admitted as a new state. It's very gray in terms of legality. DC statehood is black and white.


    Much above I did not know, thank Ye ...:thumbsup:
     

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