And you can bet PA will only recognize resident permits like they did with VA,FL and AZ, even though UT had fixed the issue of PA residents carrying on a UT permit.
And you can bet PA will only recognize resident permits like they did with VA,FL and AZ, even though UT had fixed the issue of PA residents carrying on a UT permit.
I have to agree with you. He is talking the talk, but I doubt he has ever walked the walk. I see him repeating the "we need _______" line in almost every post he makes.
PA and UT are working on getting a reciprocity agreement in place, and that is fine and dandy. They just have to deal with a few issues, and then it is finalized.
I see a lot of "we need to do this or we need to do that" coming from you in your posts. What are you doing? Have you filed any lawsuits? Have you applied for any carry permits and gotten denied so you would have grounds to pursue a legal remedy? Talk is cheap, internet talk is far cheaper. Walk in to a PA Sheriffs office and apply, let us all know how it goes and what you did about the denial.
I applied for a MD carry permit and would have appealed a denial if necessary including retaining a lawyer and going to court if I had to. Once received I requested a modification of my restrictions. My request was denied so I appealed and went to MSP for an informal review and won. If I would have lost I would have gone to the HPRB and court if need be. If you have never applied you don't have much credibility when it comes to what "we need to do'. The first step must be taken before you can tell others what road to travel. It might also be a good idea to check facts before making statements as if they were facts. You could not have been more wrong about the history of permit recognition (informal reciprocity) between PA and UT.
I applied for a MD carry permit and would have appealed a denial if necessary including retaining a lawyer and going to court if I had to. Once received I requested a modification of my restrictions. My request was denied so I appealed and went to MSP for an informal review and won. If I would have lost I would have gone to the HPRB and court if need be.
That's a good plan. I have been telling people up here we just need to apply and see how it shakes out. People are too afraid to apply because they'll have "I've been denied" on their record. I feel if a lot of us apply up here some will get permits but even if we don't, we will at least show the state that we are here and not going away.
That said, I assume you have some prior service in law enforcement? If so, that makes it a lot easier for you than the average citizen.