A quote from my kid after putting about 50 rounds through one....I shot it and I like the way it shoots. I’d be happy with one. Sometimes keep it simple is a good rule.
Picking a second gun
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I live by this! It’s probably why I’m having such a hard time. Heart says buy for me. Head says get a fun shooter for the wife and kids.
Happy spouse, happy house - it needs to go both ways IMO.
Anywho...
Don't overthink this second gun too much. As others have said, it's going to be a progression of filling in gaps for what you'll determine you want or need. You've already decided that there will be a second, and it will move forward from there - that's how I do it anyway.
In the last couple of years I've filled in several of those gaps:
I wanted:
1. polymer framed pistol - H&K USP 45
2. 40 S&W - Walther P99
3. 9mm to fill out the trifecta - Sig 226 Mk 25
4. AR - Two builds finished
5. A newer 1911 - two Dan Wesson 1911s
I also picked up a really sweet sporter rifle in there that wasn't on the list, but it was a opportunity I couldn't pass up.
To continue the list for future acquisitions, and in no particular order - they're just things I want:
6. 2020 Colt Python
7. Sig P320/M17
8. AR 10 build
9. 44 Mag so I can retire my old S&W pre-29
10. Tacticool bolt gun build for varminting
11. Tacticool build on a Mossberg or Remington pump shotgun
Needless to say, it's going to take a while - a few years at the very least - 1-5 took me from about 2013 to the present. (I forgot - I picked up a Ruger 10/22 somewhere in there too.)
Anywho...
Don't overthink this second gun too much. As others have said, it's going to be a progression of filling in gaps for what you'll determine you want or need. You've already decided that there will be a second, and it will move forward from there - that's how I do it anyway.
In the last couple of years I've filled in several of those gaps:
I wanted:
1. polymer framed pistol - H&K USP 45
2. 40 S&W - Walther P99
3. 9mm to fill out the trifecta - Sig 226 Mk 25
4. AR - Two builds finished
5. A newer 1911 - two Dan Wesson 1911s
I also picked up a really sweet sporter rifle in there that wasn't on the list, but it was a opportunity I couldn't pass up.
To continue the list for future acquisitions, and in no particular order - they're just things I want:
6. 2020 Colt Python
7. Sig P320/M17
8. AR 10 build
9. 44 Mag so I can retire my old S&W pre-29
10. Tacticool bolt gun build for varminting
11. Tacticool build on a Mossberg or Remington pump shotgun
Needless to say, it's going to take a while - a few years at the very least - 1-5 took me from about 2013 to the present. (I forgot - I picked up a Ruger 10/22 somewhere in there too.)
I had one. They're nice guns. I didn't like the mag seating (I'm picky) so eventually sold it. During the summer panic. Made money.
Be warned thought that these recoil harder than an AR-15. Most people think pistol caliber carbine, just a 9mm round, it won't be bad. And it isn't, but it's sharper than new shooters expect. By contrast, a Ruger 10/22 feels like nothing, and new shooters can go at it as long as you have ammo. An AR-15 has slightly more impulse, but very controllable. An AR-15 is much much louder than a Ruger 10/22 of course.
I like your plan to get an AR-15 stripped receiver, and shop for a 22LR handgun or rifle now. JamesDong and others suggest a highly versatile 12 gauge too, and this certainty would be in any list of 5 essential firearms to own (you'll likely find several old threads on this topic).
Yeah this is definitely not the family friendly choice. But it replaces the 22ARs because the wife is not gonna be thrilled about any of those (mostly likely) based on looks alone. So I might as well get what I want.
But the kid really likes the 22 semi pistol...
But the kid really likes the 22 semi pistol...
All you need is IMO:
A Pistol, whatever
A Shotgun, whatever
A Semiauto Rifle, whatever
A .22, again whatever
These four guns cover every contingency, HD, Hunting, Fun (clays, target, plinking)
It's simple, the rest is up to the operator's needs and wants. There are too many threads with this topic and everyone has a different opinion based on what suits them. Do what you can or want based on your situation...
A Pistol, whatever
A Shotgun, whatever
A Semiauto Rifle, whatever
A .22, again whatever
These four guns cover every contingency, HD, Hunting, Fun (clays, target, plinking)
It's simple, the rest is up to the operator's needs and wants. There are too many threads with this topic and everyone has a different opinion based on what suits them. Do what you can or want based on your situation...
OP, with your first being a pistol, under the current political climate I'd look for a semi-auto 5.56/.223 rifle for some power at reasonable range. An AR shouldn't be too hard to find or too pricey yet, but likely could be in the near future. I'd go for both a .22 rifle and a shotgun after that. Last would be a 7.62/.308/30-06 (bolt-action or semi-auto) for some real power at longer range. That's my basic list of 5. Have fun, shoot and enjoy.
Ruger 10/22 rifles come in many flavors and have many after market options, including stocks. There might be ones that would appeal to both you and family members. This 10/22 (I have several) with the Magpul takedown stock packs easy in a small shoulder bag, has storage for three 10-rd mags, and is super light ...
Here's a great deal on a GSG Firefly 22LR pistol with a threaded barrel. OBTW - a 22 rimfire suppressor would be a nice addition and suppressors have not gone up in price like other things like ammo.
https://grabagun.com/american-tactical-imports-g2210tff-firefly-22lr-tb-blk-10r.html
https://grabagun.com/american-tactical-imports-g2210tff-firefly-22lr-tb-blk-10r.html
And for 22LR rifles, there are a bunch of great choices; bolt guns, lever action, semi-auto. Marlin 60, Ruger 10/22, CZ and Savage make nice 22 bolt guns, Henry lever action.
DaemonAssassin
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You are such a enabler.Ruger 10/22 rifles come in many flavors and have many after market options, including stocks. There might be ones that would appeal to both you and family members. This 10/22 (I have several) with the Magpul takedown stock packs easy in a small shoulder bag, has storage for three 10-rd mags, and is super light ...
I got one of those, because you recommended it. I must say that I do like the takedown.
You are such a enabler.
I got one of those, because you recommended it. I must say that I do like the takedown.
Lol, you should speak. You know who I was referring to in the below ...
DaemonAssassin
Why should we Free BSD?
Lol, you should speak. You know who I was referring to in the below ...
It was karma that came around and whacked me upside the head.
2:So I guess this thread is a little bit of a peek inside my process. I love all the ideas and comments so Thank you!
here's where I am today.... I have definitely moved to the "lets have fun shooting as a family" camp. While the home defense SHTF gun is in my mind its very abstract for me at this time. I'm also balancing out not freaking out my wife, who is getting a little more comfortable but is not all that comfortable. So at this point the Walther PPQ 22 Tactical is the lead. That way we can get a suppressor for fun and its least scary to the wife. I like the semi pistol better than a rifle because I'll mostly be in a range and a pistol is just easier.The more i think about it I don't want a 22 AR platform as it would probably cause anxiety and slow me down in a full build in the future. i recognize that I may end up limited in what I can build later on but that's a risk I'll take. I'm not gonna lie though, the CX Scorpion looks hella fun and would probably be what I'd get if I was single
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My next step is to get out to the range and see what I can plink and talk to the guys about ordering. That's probably gonna happen after Christmas.
here's where I am today.... I have definitely moved to the "lets have fun shooting as a family" camp. While the home defense SHTF gun is in my mind its very abstract for me at this time. I'm also balancing out not freaking out my wife, who is getting a little more comfortable but is not all that comfortable. So at this point the Walther PPQ 22 Tactical is the lead. That way we can get a suppressor for fun and its least scary to the wife. I like the semi pistol better than a rifle because I'll mostly be in a range and a pistol is just easier.The more i think about it I don't want a 22 AR platform as it would probably cause anxiety and slow me down in a full build in the future. i recognize that I may end up limited in what I can build later on but that's a risk I'll take. I'm not gonna lie though, the CX Scorpion looks hella fun and would probably be what I'd get if I was single
. My next step is to get out to the range and see what I can plink and talk to the guys about ordering. That's probably gonna happen after Christmas.
cstone
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If you want quiet, without the Big Brother May I stamp, see if you can find a bolt action rifle chambered in 22lr. A Savage, Remington, heck even a KSA Cricket loaded up with some CCI Quiet will sound like a pellet gun. Ammunition selection is at least half of the equation in any shooting solution.
Lane Meyer
Active Member
Taking it a step further, Aguila sells powder only 22LR ammo that is whisper quiet in a .22 rifle. It’s low power and only accurate to ~25 yards but is as non-threatening as it gets. The hammer strike is mostly what you hear. It is louder but still well below the ear protection threshold in a handgun.
One of the things that always impressed me about the AR7 is that when it's packed up, it actually floats. n Does the Magpul X-22 stock offer that?Ruger 10/22 rifles come in many flavors and have many after market options, including stocks. There might be ones that would appeal to both you and family members. This 10/22 (I have several) with the Magpul takedown stock packs easy in a small shoulder bag, has storage for three 10-rd mags, and is super light ..
I really like the looks of that. Seems that it's a similar solution for a lightweight survival-type .22 that the AR7 offered, but on a platform that's decidedly more reliable.
Does anyone know the weight differences between them off the top of their head? Looks like I've got some reading to do.
Very much doubt that the 10/22 takedown in the Magpul stock would float. I can weigh it later when I'm home, but would guess it's approximately 4.5 lbs. Possibly less. It is easy to pack and carry. I've been very happy with the substitution of the original Ruger stock with the Magpul one.
I remember that as a kid in the 70s/80s reading about the AR7 in my Dad's gun publications, the ability to float was one of the big things touted about it, but the truth is, if you were ever in a situation where you REALLY needed that feature, chances are you've got bigger problems to worry about.
I really really like the Magpul solution. It's now on "the list" - my constantly growing/shifting list of guns and related items I want to pick up in the near future.
On a side note, there's something I've always really liked about the stainless/tan combination with guns - if that's a pic of your personal Magpul-10/22, I like that a lot.
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