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Old June 14th, 2020, 10:10 AM #11
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Actually UTM has marksmanship value. Better than dry fire. SIMS are crap by the way(different product). And really with UTM you need a barrel, ammo, and eye pro with loose fitting clothes. But to truly answer your question, it's a business idea.
Different product, same idea.

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You are discharging a firearm, even with sims. I don't think it will go well unless you have enough land to be able to shoot standard rounds on your place.

Curious as to how rounds are getting to 385fps with no gunpowder. Must be really light and have a serious primer in them.

That said, firearm is usually defined as something that propels a round by combustion so even if it is just a big primer, that is combustion and so no different than a standard round.
They use a dual primer system. Look up www.utmworldwide.com the technology is pretty cool
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They use a dual primer system. Look up www.utmworldwide.com the technology is pretty cool
What's your experience and training if you're looking into a business?

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Different product, same idea.

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Same idea but the UTM product is more accurate and doesn't cause in fowling and doesn't require hardly on cleaning and no lube. SIMS requires both. Sorry just picky and like UTM better....lol.
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I don't think that is going to be a "start it in my backyard" business in this state. My guess is the county will make you jump through some of the same hoops as a range if you want to do it as a business. See if the manufacturer has reps that will present to county councils and zoning boards, reach out to local and state PDs to see if it is the type of thing they would partner with you to do, talk to some pro gun state and county reps (there are some), etc.
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There was a security company (who used to be an IP(industry partner) here) ran SIMS training at their facility in Odenton. They didn't get much business with that.
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Dry-fire has huge amounts of value, and is a much better plan than this simunitions thing. If you want to keep yourself honest, buy a MantisX.
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Dry-fire has huge amounts of value, and is a much better plan than this simunitions thing. If you want to keep yourself honest, buy a MantisX.
SIMS is for shooting force on force tactics/shooting scenario training. It's not meant for perfecting your marksmanship.

Dry fire is dry fire. 2 different things.
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I didn't say sims had no value. I just think dry-fire has more value for what he's trying to do.
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