current ATF wait time

SkiPatrolDude · Jul 29, 2020

Eform 1 individual submitted July 9th
Prints mailed next day
Approved and stamp received via email: July 29th

BigCountry14 · Jul 31, 2020

Just started the clock on a YHM Turbo K. The last purchase was 7 months, hoping this one is similar.

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ar15dave · Jul 31, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
Eform 1 individual submitted July 9th
Prints mailed next day
Approved and stamp received via email: July 29th

Just curious, where did you go to get prints done? Picture?

DaemonAssassin · Jul 31, 2020

ar15dave said:
Just curious, where did you go to get prints done? Picture?

FCSO in Frederick does prints by appointment, last I checked.

engineerbrian · Jul 31, 2020

ar15dave said:
Just curious, where did you go to get prints done? Picture?

I went to Essential Support Services in Eldersburg recently. It was quick and easy.

SkiPatrolDude · Jul 31, 2020

ar15dave said:
Just curious, where did you go to get prints done? Picture?

I went to Free State in Middle River. Call ahead, though, and make sure you indicate that you need the paper cards, not livescan. You need two of the cards done...it was $25.

The pic was also done at free state, but I took it off of a Form 4 paper application that I had done about a year ago. You can download a passport photo app and do it yourself.

I don't love Free State, but they've got a real one stop shop for any ATF form stuff.

Oldcarjunkie · Aug 1, 2020

Just checking to see how long current time are and wondering if you can do a form 4 on efile anymore? Also curious to know .. If i use a dealer for this transfer and he does form 3 efile from seller to him, does anyone know the approx time on that??

DaemonAssassin · Aug 2, 2020

Oldcarjunkie said:
Just checking to see how long current time are and wondering if you can do a form 4 on efile anymore? Also curious to know .. If i use a dealer for this transfer and he does form 3 efile from seller to him, does anyone know the approx time on that??

No on the eForm 4.

No on the eForm 3.

Occam · Aug 4, 2020

Created an e-filed Form 1 on 7/13. Took Silencer Shop up on their make-amends offer to mail in my prints (just had to email the barcoded form to them). Got confirmation a couple days later that they'd done so.

Form 1 approved (and thus, PDF flavor of stamp in hand via email) on 8/3.

Time to get this DIY can done.

woodline · Aug 4, 2020

While I think Silencer Shop got railroaded by incompetent ATF drones, I hope they eventually start offering a new eForm1 support service if they can’t do they entire thing for customers. Basically the support they provided to people caught in this to file their own eForm1 for a nominal fee, maybe $15. Prints, photo, and use of whatever trust construct they want to use. Single shot unlimited in my case. All supporting documentation organized and ready to go.

They would make a killing for basically zero work on their part. Not as good as the $34 or whatever they were hoping to charge, but better than $0.

Occam · Aug 4, 2020

fbi_surveillance_van said:
While I think Silencer Shop got railroaded by incompetent ATF drones

Yup. Looks like they (SS) acted in good faith based on very specific advice from ATF ... only to have ATF suddenly have other thoughts. Even the ATF's explanation makes no sense: SS basically lined up all the paperwork in an easy (for me) way, and then passed the baton to ME to sign into a made-for-me ATF portal account, digitally sign, and kick the process into the next step. But ATF's altered position on this is that that still constitutes SS doing it "on my behalf."

Whatever. Re-did Form 1 e-file, leveraged SS having my prints ready to go and being willing to pass them along to ATF at no charge to me, and things were wrapped up in under three weeks. Now I just need to find a big enough time window to allow for cleaning up what I'm sure will be a Drilling Lube Apocalypse. We'll see! Next one (with ATF, for this still-almost-a-noob) will go a lot smoother, I'm sure.

DaemonAssassin · Aug 4, 2020

Occam said:
Yup. Looks like they (SS) acted in good faith based on very specific advice from ATF ... only to have ATF suddenly have other thoughts. Even the ATF's explanation makes no sense: SS basically lined up all the paperwork in an easy (for me) way, and then passed the baton to ME to sign into a made-for-me ATF portal account, digitally sign, and kick the process into the next step. But ATF's altered position on this is that that still constitutes SS doing it "on my behalf."

Whatever. Re-did Form 1 e-file, leveraged SS having my prints ready to go and being willing to pass them along to ATF at no charge to me, and things were wrapped up in under three weeks. Now I just need to find a big enough time window to allow for cleaning up what I'm sure will be a Drilling Lube Apocalypse. We'll see! Next one (with ATF, for this still-almost-a-noob) will go a lot smoother, I'm sure.

When you get a eForm 1 from start to paid in 8 minutes, you'll have it golden. But if you can keep it under 30 minutes per submission, you're good to go.

Fredcohunter · Aug 4, 2020

purchase date 1-29, picked up today 8-4. just about 6 months.

firemn260 · Aug 24, 2020

I couldn’t help it anymore and called this morning. Still pending at 197 days for a f4 ind. patients are not one of my virtues especially seeing a lot of guys come back under 120 days lately. I try not to complain because I know of a few that where in the 400 plus club.

FHJ69 · Aug 24, 2020

Purchase date Feb Picked up Saturday 2 Form 4's on a trust. Used Engage Armament and their SilencerCo Kiosk.

firemn260 · Aug 24, 2020

FHJ69 said:
Purchase date Feb Picked up Saturday 2 Form 4's on a trust. Used Engage Armament and their SilencerCo Kiosk.

My check cashed feb 14 so I hope it’s soon. I’m guessing if mine is still pending it hasn’t even landed on anyone’s desk yet.

engineerbrian · Aug 24, 2020

Does anyone know what the turnaround time is on a form 20 for crossing state lines?

DaemonAssassin · Aug 24, 2020

engineerbrian said:
Does anyone know what the turnaround time is on a form 20 for crossing state lines?

Send it and forget it.

FHJ69 · Aug 24, 2020

DaemonAssassin said:
Send it and forget it.

Hi, I am not doubting you but I thought you needed ATF approval? I believe you can apply for a year long window to go to ranges/states/competitions but I don't even know if that's true any more. Has it changed that much?

Thanks.

Slim · Aug 24, 2020

fbi_surveillance_van said:
I hope they eventually start offering a new eForm1 support service if they can’t do they entire thing for customers. Basically the support they provided to people caught in this to file their own eForm1 for a nominal fee, maybe $15. Prints, photo, and use of whatever trust construct they want to use. Single shot unlimited in my case. All supporting documentation organized and ready to go.

They would make a killing for basically zero work on their part. Not as good as the $34 or whatever they were hoping to charge, but better than $0.

I finally got my electronic prints saved so I can print on demand, but before that I would have loved to have SilencerShop offer a service where they received my cover sheet electronically, printed my kiosk prints, and mails it all to ATF.

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