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  • awdnick2986

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 27, 2013
    183
    I went with the Dead Air Mask 22 HD. I purchased it through Silencer Shop and had it shipped to Cindy's Hot Shots in Glen Burnie and they have a kiosk there. I purchased back in the end of July, check cashed from ATF beginning of September and it was out of jail at the end of February. I also did the single shot trust they offer. I have yet to get a chance to shot it, so I can't talk about sound or quality but from all the reviews I looked at, the Mask had one of the lowest dB first round pops around which is what ultimately sold me on that one.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,731
    Socialist State of Maryland
    I went with the Dead Air Mask 22 HD. I purchased it through Silencer Shop and had it shipped to Cindy's Hot Shots in Glen Burnie and they have a kiosk there. I purchased back in the end of July, check cashed from ATF beginning of September and it was out of jail at the end of February. I also did the single shot trust they offer. I have yet to get a chance to shot it, so I can't talk about sound or quality but from all the reviews I looked at, the Mask had one of the lowest dB first round pops around which is what ultimately sold me on that one.

    Did you start the process with a Silencer Shop's on line account? Do you have to send a check yourself or is that part of the buying process through SS? What does the trust do for you if you are going to be the only shooter?

    TIA
     

    Mike OTDP

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 12, 2008
    3,318
    The kiosks are set up to do both fingerprints and photos. Or you can upload a photo. Silencer Shop will let you charge the transfer fee. The trust? That's a relic of the Bad Old Days when you needed a Chief Law Enforcement Officer to sign a Form 4...and some would not sign even when it was legal. Nowdays, I'm not sure it's worth bothering with.
     

    ultraplanet

    Shooter
    Jan 10, 2013
    193
    Swanton
    This may be a silly question..... Does the dealer I use need to be in my state? I appears there are several silencershop kiosks near me in PA but none in MD.
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
    17,643
    PA
    Here are a few things I have learned (sometimes the hard way) from using suppressors. Hopefully this can save someone some time.

    1. Check to see if any threaded mounts or caps come loose during use. A suppressor may work its way loose and risk a baffle strike.
    2. If your POI suddenly starts to shift, see above.
    3. A silicone pot trivet pad can be used to tighten/remove a hot suppressor
    4. Frequent cleanings are much easier than waiting for the gunk to build up.
    5. Some people say a dirty suppressor may be quieter. They are also MUCH harder to clean.
    6. Using metal tools to pry apart stuck baffles can leave nicks on the internals that interfere with threaded components.
    7. I can't reliably hear the difference between 1dB of measured sound energy, but I can hear the tone difference between different designs. Some sound quieter even at the same measured dB level.
    8. Letting a dirty suppressor soak in Rem Oil (or similar liquid) overnight makes cleaning easy. Most parts wipe clean without scrubbing. Check material/finish compatibility.
    9. FRP can be significantly reduced or eliminated by spraying CO2 gas into the suppressor right before firing the first round. A CO2 bike tire inflator works well.
    10.Using a suppressor increases back pressure. Expect to feel more blowback towards your face and see semi-auto actions get dirty faster.
    11. The weight of a suppressor on a rifle barrel may change the POI.
    12. Don't be surprised when you want more suppressors and only want threaded barrels.

    I got my Mask, and put about 1K rounds through it, cleaned easy, went about 2K after, and same thing, easy clean. I push the baffles out, scrape out the inside of the end cap, drop the baffles in this Ultrasonic for an hour at 160 degrees with about 1 in 4 mix of water and simple green(2gal for $8 at BJ's). I drop the cap and mount in about 10min before it's done, brush the tube out with these brushes(don't put finished stuff in the ultrasonic) take them out of the cleaner, rinse in hot water, dry off, and spray the internals with silicone spray, reassemble. cleans filthy cans very effectively with very little work.

    https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0824KC65C?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details


    https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07HLM9SQQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
     

    Reloader

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 23, 2007
    1,381
    Arnold, MD
    A lot of great info here but haven't seen any talk about the form 1 option since the first page. This sounds like a good option to reduce the wait time?
     

    outrider58

    Eats Bacon Raw
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 29, 2014
    49,815
    This may be a silly question..... Does the dealer I use need to be in my state? I appears there are several silencershop kiosks near me in PA but none in MD.

    Yes, it has to be located in your state as far as I know. There are several in Md but maybe not out your way. Thee in MoCo.
     

    md_al

    Active Member
    Apr 25, 2014
    724
    Middle River
    A lot of great info here but haven't seen any talk about the form 1 option since the first page. This sounds like a good option to reduce the wait time?

    Is there a sticky for the current Form1 process. I am tempted to Form 1 another can but I did the last one before the new process. Definitely would appreciate if someone could make a walkthrough for the current process.
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
    17,643
    PA
    Is there a sticky for the current Form1 process. I am tempted to Form 1 another can but I did the last one before the new process. Definitely would appreciate if someone could make a walkthrough for the current process.

    When you say build your own can, can you purchase the baffles, end plates, tube etc. or do you have to fabricate the parts?

    https://www.quietbore.com/2020/10/14/how-to-order-a-form-1-kit-from-quietbore/

    basically
    1. pick out a form 1 kit, get specs/length/caliber etc, info only, do not buy it(having parts without a form 1 can get your dog shot), although some may allow a "deposit" and hold it till you have a form 1. get prints or do them yourself on FBI standard print cards
    2. file a form 1 on the atf website with the spec info.
    3. get confirm on the filing and a cover sheet, mail cover sheet and print cards to the ATF, send the letter to your CLEO.
    4. get the F1 approved, buy the F1 suppressor kit and jig, most sellers now need a copy of your F1 before they send it. They should engrave it for you.
    5. drill it, build it, use a test rod to make sure everything lines up and you won't get a baffle strike.
    6. test fire. test with a brace before you pin/weld the mount and tube if you are doing a single stamp rifle with < 16" barrel.

    A decent kit is stupid easy to make, basically drill baffles/end cap with a drill press, centering jig and assemble. Some may add clips, slots or ports in the baffles with a milling bit to get a little better performance.
     
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    Bootknife

    Ultimate Member
    I also have a Sparrow that can be cleaned, .22 cal. is dirty so cleaning is a must IMO. Silencershop has been great as I have a Trust for the Family ....anyway I have Four in the Wait game to finish the Job.You can order more than one and You have an active window of 12 Months if you want something else! All my Tax Stamp Fee Checks have been cashed ....so it is the waiting game now. Good Luck! Also they will make you wait to submit the PW until the BO can arrives, for the serial Number.
     

    awdnick2986

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 27, 2013
    183
    Did you start the process with a Silencer Shop's on line account? Do you have to send a check yourself or is that part of the buying process through SS? What does the trust do for you if you are going to be the only shooter?

    TIA

    John,

    I started the process all online via Silencer Shop and finished paperwork and fingerprints at the kiosk. There is an app for Silencer Shop so you can do a passport photo as well. Silencer Shop collected the tax stamp lumped together with everything so it was a one lump sum payment via credit card to silencer shop. It was pretty easy, except for the waiting, although mine didn't take nearly as long as I had been hearing.
     

    ralph.mclean

    GOC (Grumpy Old Cop)
    Jan 27, 2018
    236
    Edgewater, MD
    Reach out to A-1 Uniform in Brentwood, if yo are in the DC suburbs. Ask for Mike. He will get you up and rolling in no time (aside from the year it will take you to get your federal paperwork done). He has SEVERAL high value for the cost options for you to choose from...

    Call the number listed for them on-line, and ask for the gun store when they answer.
     

    awdnick2986

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 27, 2013
    183
    Also, John. Forgot to answer your last question. Trust doesn't really do much if you are the only shooter. I added it so that if I ever want to lend it out to a friend I can easily add them without having to get them to sign anything like a normal trust. I looked at it as a small price to pay to future proof my purchase.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,731
    Socialist State of Maryland
    Thanks for explaining the details awdick2986, it helps. One more thing I need clarified. If you order online, do you have to wait for something sent to you before you go over to the FFL?
     

    Bootknife

    Ultimate Member
    John, I had an Older Trust so I went Back to that Law Firm and got an Update. Then I wanted the Grand Kids on the New Trust. I was able to do all that from here in Florida even though the Family is Spread out. Silencershop and the Kiosk Platform allowed Folks in NC, and Baton Rouse La to get on my Trust. They are great to work with and will help You through the Fog. This Trust gives me the ability to let the Family enjoy using the Cans in the Trust. My # is in the members info if you need to chat.
     

    awdnick2986

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 27, 2013
    183
    Thanks for explaining the details awdick2986, it helps. One more thing I need clarified. If you order online, do you have to wait for something sent to you before you go over to the FFL?

    John, I am trying to remember the specific order. I think it went like this, ordered and paid for everything from Silencer Shop. During the time it took for Silencer Shop to ship to the FFL, I went in and did fingerprints and filled out personal info at the kiosk and used the app to upload photo. Once the FFL received the silencer, they did their paperwork electronically, and I had to fill out/sign my stuff electronically. From there it was sent to ATF and you basically waited for the Silencer Shop order status to show check cashed. Once that happened the clock starts for wait time. Mine was about 5 or so months from check cashed to the call that it was ready for pick up. Silencer Shops site was still showing checked cashed and hadn't updated to approved when I got the call. All in all, what seemed like an intimidating process was very simple.

    Nick
     

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