Biden does it again! State Dept. Bans Russian Guns and Ammo

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  • Growler215

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    Dec 30, 2020
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    I believe this was 100% about making it harder for US patriots to get ammo and AKs.

    The conditions to lift the sanctions are such that Russia will never comply. They wouldn't have complied with these conditions to build their pipeline, either.
     

    aquaman

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    Sep 21, 2008
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    Kind of hard to believe, but I just watched a video by “mrgunsngear”. He has stats they say 40-45 percent of all ammo sold in the US, is made in Russia.

    Like I said hard to believe, but if even remotely close, l believe ammo prices are going to ride across the board.

    I can see that, half of everything I bought rifle was always steel.
     

    lazarus

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    Jun 23, 2015
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    Go get a political science dictionary though. Communism CAN be a type of economic system. But communism specifically is talking about a system of government now. As Marx described it, it was a type of government married to an economic system.

    Socialism was tied with it originally. But no longer in the vast majority of communist states, despite what Wikipedia says :-)
     

    aquaman

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    Just my 2 cents but we holler about commies and how bad they are to our society and way of life. Now people are pissed because we cannot buy their ammo any more? WTF, we should not by their crap any way which also helps their economy. Sounds hypocritical to me.

    The Soviet Union collapsed almost 30 years ago. Are you posting from 1989?
     

    Inigoes

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    People shoot commie ammo? :shrug:

    Its supposed to be bought in sealed tins and buried in the SHTF garden with the cosmoline coated firearms.
     

    Harrys

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    Jul 12, 2014
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    Umm… no

    So I reiterate why support Russia or other Communist countries unless you are a Socialist or Communist yourself.

    From another Member Paraphrasing "Socialism and communism is a jetty mind trick and only works on weak minds"
     

    Allen65

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    Jun 29, 2013
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    So I reiterate why support Russia or other Communist countries unless you are a Socialist or Communist yourself.

    Russia's government is authoritarian, but not communist. More like an oligarchy, with rich private company owners supporting a kleptocrat dictator because he enables them to keep making more money. That's not particularly communist or socialist.
     

    Harrys

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    Russia's government is authoritarian, but not communist. More like an oligarchy, with rich private company owners supporting a kleptocrat dictator because he enables them to keep making more money. That's not particularly communist or socialist.

    Yup keep thinking that even if they are no longer communist I do not trust them. :tdown:
     

    Allen65

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    Yup keep thinking that even if they are no longer communist I do not trust them. :tdown:

    Putin will do whatever it takes to keep himself in power and retain his personal wealth. For now, the messaging he's using is Russian nationalism because that resonates with a large enough audience to keep the average Russian from noticing the regime exists for no reason other to enrich itself.

    In a way, you could say Putin can be "trusted" to do whatever will keep his gravy train on the rails, making him somewhat predictable.
     

    wailer

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    Oct 2, 2008
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    Largo
    So I reiterate why support Russia or other Communist countries unless you are a Socialist or Communist yourself.

    From another Member Paraphrasing "Socialism and communism is a jetty mind trick and only works on weak minds"

    So again I will ask do you own a cell phone? Where is it made? Do you possess anything commie in your house made in China? Because if so you are supporting a communist country yourself and should not allocate your judgement for ammo and firearms exclusively, you are just as complicit in putting money in there coffers. So unless you are a hermit or nomad and not a part of the system at all then I don’t see your point.

    I can guarantee the device that you are responding and typing on has Commi parts or was made in a communist country…
     

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    Russia is an Authoritarian Oligarcy , with strong flavoring of Kleptocracy , thru a vehicle of Russian Nationalism .

    You can not trust them , not wish to do business with them , etc . But they are Not communist now , or for decades .
     

    Harrys

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    Jul 12, 2014
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    SOMD
    So again I will ask do you own a cell phone? Where is it made? Do you possess anything commie in your house made in China? Because if so you are supporting a communist country yourself and should not allocate your judgement for ammo and firearms exclusively, you are just as complicit in putting money in there coffers. So unless you are a hermit or nomad and not a part of the system at all then I don’t see your point.

    I can guarantee the device that you are responding and typing on has Commi parts or was made in a communist country…

    There are only 5 cell phones not made in China mine is one of them how about you? Also, my laptop was not made in China. In fact all my appliances were made in the USA, including my wood stove, AC unit and my printer. What about You? :party29:
     

    Occam

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    Feb 24, 2018
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    There are only 5 cell phones not made in China mine is one of them how about you? Also, my laptop was not made in China. In fact all my appliances were made in the USA

    It's a good sentiment, but it completely confuses "assembled" in the USA vs truly "made in."

    There isn't a single appliance on the market, for example, that doesn't include Chinese parts. Could be sheet steel stock, or anything from control chipsets to wiring harnesses or just fasteners and washers and tubing. Don't kid yourself about where the metal is refined, the plastics molded, the paint chemicals mixed, and so much more. Sure, the thing might be bolted together and boxed up in Kentucky, but that is not the same thing.

    If we all agreed we didn't care about a huge increase in consumer prices and then set about a moon-shot or Manhattan Project style effort to bring every bit of the manufacturing that goes into you household appliances (let alone cell phones, etc) into the US (or at least into this hemisphere), it would take decades to get it all lined up. And it would be devastatingly expensive, to say nothing of the NIMBYs all freaking out and doing everything possible to stop it.
     

    wailer

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    Oct 2, 2008
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    There are he only 5 cell phones not made in China mine is one of them how about you? Also, my laptop was not made in China. In fact all my appliances were made in the USA, including my wood stove, AC unit and my printer. What about You? :party29:

    Can you ensure the components made in your appliances and phones chips and all are not made outside of America was my point, especially when America outsources most of the components as someone said, made in America means assembled in America. I also asked do you possess anything that is made in China or any communist country, if you can 100% say no then kudos, stand on what you believe.

    To answer your question, my phones are iPhones made in China, as well as my computers. I have no problem with buying American and supporting it, but I am also a capitalist and will buy wherever necessary for my necessities, I never took the stance that I don’t buy nor possess anything from a communist country, I’d be a liar.
     

    XCheckR

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    Mar 20, 2013
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    There are only 5 cell phones not made in China mine is one of them how about you? Also, my laptop was not made in China. In fact all my appliances were made in the USA, including my wood stove, AC unit and my printer. What about You? :party29:

    Which 5
     

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