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  • AssMan

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    More Dem shenanigans and some big news from VCDL today regarding Lobby Day...

    #Rolling4the2a #VCDL

    The Virginia anti-gun Democrat leadership is trying desperately to suppress VCDL's Lobby Day in 2021 - but they won't succeed. Lobby Day this year will be more eye-popping than last year and you will be warmer to boot!

    The Governor and the Democrats that control the General Assembly really, really don't want another massive VCDL Lobby Day and rally on January 18, 2021, so games are being played to silence us.

    VCDL was told years ago that an application to use the Bell Tower for an event more than six months out would not even be accepted. We have followed that rule, booked six months out, and gotten the 11 am slot for 17 years. This year, when we applied exactly six months out, we were told that the 11 am slot was already booked! In fact, every slot was filled except the 6 am and 6 pm slots.

    How was that even possible? We had booked right at the six month mark.

    We got a copy of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) document containing the applications that had been accepted by the Department of General Services (DGS) for Lobby Day on January 18, 2021. Lo and behold - the 11am slot had been requested by Andrew Goddard and Lori Haas with the Virginia Center For Public Safety (a gun-control group with ties to Michael Bloomberg). Here's the kicker - DGS accepted the application, which had been filed OVER A YEAR IN ADVANCE (January 14, 2020)! That was even before the VCDL's 2020 Lobby Day event!

    If Lori Haas's name sounds familiar, she's the paid gun-control lobbyist who the Democrats put on the supposedly non-partisan Crime Commission a few months ago, destroying the Commission's credibility on any gun-related items.

    The other slots were taken by the following organizations (note the dates the applications were submitted - all self-proclaimed progressive organizations, all magically within a few days of Goddard's application, and all before VCDL's Lobby Day 2020!):

    9 am: Care in Action. Applied on January 17, 2020.
    1 pm: Progress Virginia (another gun-control rally). Applied on January 17, 2020.
    3 pm: New Virginia Majority. Applied on January 19, 2020.

    DGS's own rules say they will grant the venues to the first applicant with a valid application. That would have made VCDL the first valid applicant for the 11 am slot (or any of the slots for that matter). But that's not what is being done.

    And that's not all: notification of who has actually gotten the slots won't be known until mid-December, making planning for such an event very difficult.

    A new set of rules is in the process of being passed, which will allow DGS to postpone the event if the Governor or the General Assembly decides they want to use the grounds at that time. So, the day before Lobby Day, DGS could decide that some Senator needs to use the Bell Tower for one of his events and VCDL's event will be cancelled and moved to some other date. Also, If more than the maximum number of people show up for an event, it can be cancelled. I kid you not. Proposed changes can be seen here.

    And then there are all the COVID-19 games that can be played by the Governor, as well as the House holding their session virtually in 2021.


    If the Governor and the Democrats in the General Assembly want to play games in order to suppress our right to free speech, then we'll play a game of our own: it's called #Rolling4the2A, and this they can't stop.

    You may have heard of the annual "Rolling Thunder" event in DC and the massive "Trump Trains" recently. Both involve hundreds of vehicles with flags and signs traveling together to express support for a cause.

    VCDL is going to do that on January 18, but on steroids!

    VCDL's lobbying effort on January 18 is going to consist of thousands of vehicles in four major caravans coming from the corners of the state and all of them headed to Richmond! We will post the times the various caravans should be passing key locations so those along the routes can join the caravans as it passes by their area.

    The four major caravans will all flood into the Richmond area over a 4 hour period in the afternoon and will pass through the center of Richmond, near wherever the Senate is meeting.

    We will have flags and magnetic signs for all the vehicles which are taking part in this event, so everyone watching the seemingly never-ending flow of vehicles will have no doubt about the mission of those vehicles.

    We are already planning on how to cover and coordinate this event over social media, including having guest speakers live-streaming and allowing everyone to know where the various caravans are located as they move across the state.

    Obviously we want as many vehicles as possible in each caravan, but we are looking at having some "decked-out" buses ("wrapped" with pro-gun messages) for those who simply cannot drive, but still want to be part of this incredible event.

    As a bonus, you can stay armed, you can stay warm and/or dry in your vehicle, and no worries about finding a place to park!

    This is going to be SOOOO cool. Yes, there will be a lot of driving from some of you, but it will be worth it. The message we will be sending will be heard not only in Richmond, but in the whole state, and across the country!


    What if I want to park my vehicle and walk around Richmond armed?

    While VCDL is not holding an event in Richmond, you are certainly allowed to park your car and walk around the City armed if you wish. Carry signs if you wish, too. The Richmond ordinance banning guns at a permitted event only applies if:

    1. It is a permitted event or should have been a permitted event - you walking around Richmond is neither. Regardless of how many people decide to do so at the same time, it is irrelevant as long as they are not doing it as some kind of a coordinated effort
    2. There must be "no guns" signs posted by the City and they can only post those signs temporarily for permitted events.

    NOTES IF YOU ARE CARRYING A RIFLE OR A HANDGUN:

    If you are planning to travel with a rifle or a handgun, either as a resident or a non-resident, please ensure you are aware of the applicable gun-laws. The Virginia State Police website has some good information on transporting firearms (https://www.vsp.virginia.gov/Firearms_Transporting.shtm).

    For those with 'scary' black rifles or with certain handguns, please maintain awareness of Virginia code 18.2-287.4 "Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited" found at https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter7/section18.2-287.4/. Basically, if you are planning to carry a loaded, center-fire rifle or handgun with a threaded barrel, a folding stock (rifle only), or with a magazine in the gun that holds MORE than 20 rounds in Richmond, you must have a valid concealed handgun permit (all non-resident concealed carry permits are honored by Virginia).

    Except as specified in the previous paragraph, open carry of a long gun or a handgun does not require a permit in Virginia. If you have a permit, only handguns can be carried concealed, NOT long guns.


    Watch for updates over the next few weeks

    You will be told the following things over VA-ALERT and they will also be posted on the VCDL.org website:

    * How to get the flags and magnet signs with pro-gun messages for your vehicle
    * The exact routes and approximate times that each caravan will pass through key locations
    * Links to where you can hear VCDL's invited speakers, as well as follow the progress of the caravans

    I'll see you at #Rolling4the2A on January 18, 2021! And for those of you from other states, come join us! Richmond, here we come!

    Please use these tags on social media when referring to Lobby Day 2021: #Rolling4the2a #VCDL
     

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    Thank you for this thread Snallygaster!

    You are genuinely a Patriot Walker of The Patriot Walk: you were there at the State Capitol this past January 20th for the 2020 VCDL Lobby Day.

    I know this, because I was privileged to stand with you when we joined up with other PATRIOT PICKET and MDS members and rallied there to demonstrate in support of our 2A Rights outside the Capitol Grounds.

    What an inspiring experience it was to be present at the last VCDL Lobby Day. Here are a few pics from last January below; for more reporting and pics from that great day click here:

    https://patriotpicket.org/f/making-news-at-virginia-capital-gun-rally

    The MDS thread about the 2020 VCDL Lobby Day;

    https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=241412
     

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    Some interesting reporting about the upcoming VCDL Lobby Day, in case you missed it.

    The first item is the article from the WaPo last month that was intended to TAUNT the VCDL about the upcoming 2021 Lobby Day, referred to in the VCDL-Alert that Snallygaster re-printed in his OP.

    WaPo gloated over their implication that the VCDL leadership had been out-maneuvered by both Virginia and national gun banners in pulling the event permits for the 2021 Lobby Day:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...949f52-2e70-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html

    In case you can’t stand the idea of clicking on the WaPo or don’t have private page viewing:
     

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    nedsurf

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    The Richmond BLM protests didn't pull permits and they went where they wanted. They are playing Calvinball (Calvin and Hobbes reference), making up rules on the fly to thwart using 1A to advocate for 2A. With the acknowledgement that I will not attend this one and cannot claim to have skin in the game IMO, time to stop playing Calvinball with them.

    Last year's gathering was a proud moment of which to be a part.
     

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    VCDL ain’t pulling no stinking’ permits either!

    The ridiculous notion that the gun-banners “thwarted” ANYTHING about the upcoming Lobby Day is just self-comforting/thumb-sucking on their part.

    As this excellent article from The Truth About Guns website illustrates; the VCDL leadership knows excellent recipes for ladling out some refreshing lemonade and serving up some delicious chicken salad.

    I’ve included only the first few paragraphs in the TTAG article in the screen grabs below; some really interesting detail in this account, which includes an interview with Phil Van Cleave:

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-vcdl-shifts-gears-for-2021-lobby-day-rally/
     

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    I rather think that Phil Van Cleave looks very smart in Army green, don’t ya think?

    :thumbsup: :war::patriot:

     

    nedsurf

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    Your point on the permits noted. I hope the more diffused approach has impact. I'd like to see a friendly legislator claim they need the bell tower space at the last minute and, by their own, new rules the anti groups have to give that space up.
     

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    I hope the more diffused approach has impact. I'd like to see a friendly legislator claim they need the bell tower space at the last minute and, by their own, new rules the anti groups have to give that space up.

    Agree.

    Our friend Cam Edwards from BearingArms.com has also certainly taken notice, and he ain’t fooled either.

    As Cam wrote in his column last month, he’ll be joining the VCDL caravan to Richmond from his own neck of the woods:

    https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/11/25/virginia-dems-political-games-lobby-day/

    Good times!

    :thumbsup:
     

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    This Mother Jones article is a fun read:

    https://www.motherjones.com/politic...rights-movement-is-emerging-in-the-nras-wake/

    Despite standard references to the libtards’ Chicken Little fears and the boilerplate lies they tell each other about the “ultra-right“ - - “Confederate ... flags waved high and wide [at the 2020 VCDL Lobby Day]” - - it is nevertheless an excellent narrative description of the current gun rights landscape as the next VCDL Lobby Day approaches.

    Especially, in the aftermath of the VCDL delivering that 2020 shock to both the Virginia and national libtards’ system:

    - the rise and explosive growth of the Virginia Citizen’s Defense League in 2020
    - the contraction of the National Rifle Association, the attempted NRA “coup” by Oliver North and New York’s NRA lawsuit
    - the shock of VCDL’s massive 2020 Lobby Day turnout
    - the libtards alarm at the increase in local and national militia activity
    - the assumed influence of Oathkeepers, “boogaloo boys” and Proud Boys
    - the surprising success of VCDL’s Second Amendment Sanctuary movement statewide
    - Giffords, Socialists and other libtards’ fever-dreams of creating national gun owner groups to “take [over] the NRA’s mantle while also pushing for gun control measures.” (LOL!)
    - Phil Van Cleave discusses plans for the 2021 Richmond Lobby Day

    :thumbsup:
     

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    The leadership of the VCDL it its own worst enemy. Ed Levine explaining what to do with your black rifle if the legislature passes an AWB

    I don’t see it.

    “Glenn Woodell” evidently didn’t like Ed Levine’s first answer, even though it is a question “Glenn” could answer for himself.

    Ed Levine is also not responsible for the legal fallacy complained about.

    I see Ed giving an simplistic, exasperated, and pedantic answer to a question twice asked, and rudely asked the second time.

    Where you see surrender, I see sarcasm.

    I stand with VCDL.

    How do you feel about “The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms”?
     

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    AssMan

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    That MJ article makes it seem like every other attendee was carrying the "Confederate Flag." I personally think I saw one, and IIRC it was a rainbow version flown by the Pink Pistol group or something similar.
     

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    That MJ article makes it seem like every other attendee was carrying the "Confederate Flag." I personally think I saw one, and IIRC it was a rainbow version flown by the Pink Pistol group or something similar.

    I was there all day from 7 AM on and frankly don’t recall seeing any Confederate flags where I spent my time.

    FWIW I post MSM articles and videos with 2A content despite the fact that they almost always include their boilerplate nonsense, usually because the reporter is younger and fresh out of DNC “journalism school.”

    Doesn’t bother me to read or watch them if there are 2A heroes speaking out and telling our truth.
     

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    Here’s an example with two key differences; a more experienced reporter, and a long-form report, a documentary actually.

    Interviews with, and about, Virginians and gun rights:

    “In the first episode of this two-part documentary, CBSN Originals explores an armed backlash to new gun laws. Mass shootings in Virginia have mobilized the fight for more regulation, but some counties won't enforce laws they say infringe on their residents' constitutional rights.”


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=7lSRH-FAMFM

     

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    “CBSN Originals presents "Reverb | Gun Fight, Part Two"”

    “In the second episode of this two-part documentary, CBSN Originals follows a growing movement of militias refusing to comply with new gun regulations. As the country navigates a pandemic, economic shutdowns and political unrest, gun sales are soaring and gun rights activists argue Americans should be armed now more than ever.”


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1rasWOqREI

     
    I don’t see it.

    “Glenn Woodell” evidently didn’t like Ed Levine’s first answer, even though it is a question “Glenn” could answer for himself.

    Ed Levine is also not responsible for the legal fallacy complained about.

    I see Ed giving an simplistic, exasperated, and pedantic answer to a question twice asked, and rudely asked the second time.

    Where you see surrender, I see sarcasm.

    I stand with VCDL.

    How do you feel about “The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms”?

    I read the entire communication and only screenshot Ed's response. The reason Glenn reworded the question was because Ed's original answer was simply unbelievable..."Get rid of them"...Glenn wanted clarification and certainly got it. No, Ed was clear...he thinks people who own dreaded black rifles should comply with the law if the VA legislature were to pass an assault weapons ban. Once again, another case of "I'd rather be law abiding than refuse to comply.

    And to be fair, it's not just Ed at the VCDL. I lurk on many gun forums across the country and on Facebook pages. There are a LOT of fair weather 2A supporters who are more interested in mocking those who would actually fight for EVERYONE'S rights while they sit at home on their hands. Pathetic..
     

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    “CBSN Originals presents "Reverb | Gun Fight, Part Two"”

    “In the second episode of this two-part documentary, CBSN Originals follows a growing movement of militias refusing to comply with new gun regulations. As the country navigates a pandemic, economic shutdowns and political unrest, gun sales are soaring and gun rights activists argue Americans should be armed now more than ever.”


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1rasWOqREI




    *responding in a deep husky voice* the gun control Karen and the reporter's "stats" are BS. Good reminder of what we are up against.
     

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