HiPoint bullpup conversion legal?

DaftPict · May 28, 2018

I think I already know the answer is NO but I wanted to ask the 'experts'.
I recently saw the new bullpup conversion kit for the HiPoint carbines and the new overall length would be 26 1/4" which is too short for a rifle to be purchased in MD. I'm assuming that these consumer conversions would also be verboten, but you never know with MD.
Please don't start a hate hipoint thread - I keep one as my SHTF trunk gun rather than my go-to and the only reason I'm looking at this is that (I think) it's less ugly but also smaller in my trunk..
cheers :party29:

dontpanic · May 28, 2018

If it's less than 29" then it's a no go. Sucks that we can't have anything nice.

knastera · May 28, 2018

You can buy the conversion kit and have a barrel extension pinned and welded to the barrel to permanently give it an OAL of 29". Just have the barrel extension added prior to dropping the rifle in the stock because it will be illegal without the extension. Here is one that is designed to be pinned and welded: https://taccom3g.com/product/light-weight-barrel-extension/

danb · May 29, 2018

bullpup conversion triggers suck. I think that here is one of the rare times the law is saving you from yourself.

Yes, you could pin and weld a device to make it legal. Save your money, get a Tavor.

Biggfoot44 · May 29, 2018

I really, really want to like the concept of Bullpups . Increasing the ratio of bbl length/ OAL is a good thing.

In America that would be running a 16in bbl @ 26in OAL.
In Maryland , that would be running a 20-ish in bbl @ 29in OAL .

But the triggers are the sticking point . And left handed capability.

danb · May 29, 2018

Triggers on production bullpups like the Tavor have improved significantly, and there are aftermarket triggers made by Geissle.

Triggers on "conversion kits" have to use the rifle receiver setup, so they are like a crowbar attached to another crowbar which hits an anvil, with a 45lb spring in between. Not a good setup either for defensive shooting or precision shooting. Plus they are shorter than a bat, so they are not even good for that as plan B.

engineerbrian · May 29, 2018

If your looking at High Tower Armory, that bull pup has been coming soon for close to 2 years. I wouldnt hold your breath

https://www.hightowerarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTAMBS95

Rylo33 · Mar 7, 2019

Just wondering if any thing changed about the “copycat “ law. I received an email from High Tower today saying these conversions were in stock and that Since i was on the waiting list I could now process my order. Just curious before I order

Rack&Roll · Mar 7, 2019

danb said:
bullpup conversion triggers suck. I think that here is one of the rare times the law is saving you from yourself.

Yes, you could pin and weld a device to make it legal. Save your money, get a Tavor.

Spend the money on a Time Machine to return to September 2013 to get the 26" OAL Tavor, LOL...

They are nice!

danb · Mar 7, 2019

Rack&Roll said:
Spend the money on a Time Machine to return to September 2013 to get the 26" OAL Tavor, LOL...

They are nice!

Or spend the money on a time machine to fast forward to December 2019 when your dealer will pin and weld your new shortie suppressor to a 16" Barrel Tavor bringing your integrally suppressed hotness to just over 29". MD compliant, and 136 decibels. :tongue01:

to Frosh

Malleovic · Mar 7, 2019

Or get a desert tech MDR

danb · Mar 7, 2019

Desert Tech MDR Has the same problem as Tavor, too short, So you need to make it about 3" longer

Steve_Zissou · Mar 7, 2019

Malleovic said:
Or get a desert tech MDR

Beat me to it.

Malleovic · Mar 7, 2019

danb said:
Desert Tech MDR Has the same problem as Tavor, too short, So you need to make it about 3" longer

I believe they are releasing a specific model with a 19" barrel that will accommodate the above requirement.

Or that may be some old marketing lit.

danb · Mar 8, 2019

Malleovic said:
I believe they are releasing a specific model with a 19" barrel that will accommodate the above requirement.

Or that may be some old marketing lit.

Eventually. But the 300blk does not even come out until dec 2019, which probably means 2020. I doubt we will see 19" models until the end of 2020. Meantime, you will need a long muzzle brake or FH.

mh53pvlow · Jun 16, 2020

I think Hi Point now makes a 19 inch barrel. If so could you just install that barrel then get the HTA stock and be good to go?

herkybird72 · Jun 16, 2020

Your location says WV. Should not be an issue as long as you don’t bring it to the Peoples Republic.

Bullfrog · Jun 16, 2020

herkybird72 said:
Your location says WV. Should not be an issue as long as you don’t bring it to the Peoples Republic.

He started this thread in May 2018. I'm guessing he escaped to the free world sometime after asking the question.

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