Folding vs Retractable Stock

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  • rmbstyle

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    Does a retractable stock count the same as a folding stock for the "evil" features? I want to put a retractable stock on my HK 51 clone but didn't know if I can keep the flash hider or not.

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    outrider58

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    Collapsible(telescopic) stocks are GTG and don't count as an evil features.
     

    Bboarder

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    Reviving this

    Considering converting a collapsible stock sbr to a folding stock. But same concern as above also worried about oal. Normally with collapsible stocks you measure extended, but with a folder are rules the same?
     

    teratos

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    Reviving this

    Considering converting a collapsible stock sbr to a folding stock. But same concern as above also worried about oal. Normally with collapsible stocks you measure extended, but with a folder are rules the same?

    Yes. Collapsible and folding are the same on a rifle. Fully extended.
     

    Pinecone

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    Reviving this

    Considering converting a collapsible stock sbr to a folding stock. But same concern as above also worried about oal. Normally with collapsible stocks you measure extended, but with a folder are rules the same?

    Just don't also have a flash suppressor.
     

    Bboarder

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    Just don't also have a flash suppressor.

    So are a folder and a collapsesble the same or treated differently?

    Above says they are the same same, you're saying don't also have a flash suppressor with folder? Is that different than a collapsible and a flash suppressor?
     

    outrider58

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    So are a folder and a collapsesble the same or treated differently?

    Above says they are the same same, you're saying don't also have a flash suppressor with folder? Is that different than a collapsible and a flash suppressor?

    Collapsible and folder are two different animals and fall under different regs. Collapsible is not considered an evil feature.
     

    Pinecone

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    Yes. Collapsible and folding are the same on a rifle. Fully extended.

    So are a folder and a collapsesble the same or treated differently?

    Above says they are the same same, you're saying don't also have a flash suppressor with folder? Is that different than a collapsible and a flash suppressor?

    This first comment was ONLY about how they are measured.

    Under MD law a folder is an evil feature. And a collapsible one is not.
     

    erwos

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    I've always sorta wondered if someone could make the argument that the LAW folder is not actually a folding stock. After all, it's the buffer tube that's folding, the stock is just coming along for the ride. This is unlike a Sig 556, AK, etc., where the stock itself is hinged or being directly moved. Not sure I'd want to be the test case, though.
     

    hobiecat590

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    Why not both? I never understood why anyone would install a fixed foldable stock instead of installing an adjustable AND foldable stock at the same time. You get the best of both worlds. Perhaps I am missing something?
     

    outrider58

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    I've always sorta wondered if someone could make the argument that the LAW folder is not actually a folding stock. After all, it's the buffer tube that's folding, the stock is just coming along for the ride. This is unlike a Sig 556, AK, etc., where the stock itself is hinged or being directly moved. Not sure I'd want to be the test case, though.
    Great argument counselor...:D
     

    lazarus

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    I've always sorta wondered if someone could make the argument that the LAW folder is not actually a folding stock. After all, it's the buffer tube that's folding, the stock is just coming along for the ride. This is unlike a Sig 556, AK, etc., where the stock itself is hinged or being directly moved. Not sure I'd want to be the test case, though.

    Technically correct with MDLeg and MDSP will go about as well as technically correct with your spouse.

    But the later you are only likely to sleep on the couch...
     

    Slim

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    I've always sorta wondered if someone could make the argument that the LAW folder is not actually a folding stock. After all, it's the buffer tube that's folding, the stock is just coming along for the ride. This is unlike a Sig 556, AK, etc., where the stock itself is hinged or being directly moved. Not sure I'd want to be the test case, though.
    Or like the various Keltecs that fold in half...
     

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