EoTech 512 Question

[Sirex]

So, I bought an EoTech 512 holographic sight a little while ago when PSA had them on sale. I hadn't mounted it on a rifle until Sunday when I took my guns out of the safe to inspect/clean. I also bought one of those really cheap EoTech 512 Chinese knock offs to use on my BB gun or airsoft gun, but to replicate the 512. The real 512 seems to have a blurry, grainy reticle, while the knock off is crisp and clear. The knock off has tinted glass, so it isn't as clear as the EoTech, but the targeting reticle is much, much more clear. I didn't have my contacts in, had my glasses on, so it wasn't my contacts causing the blur, and I don't think my astigmatism is bad with my glasses on. Is this normal for an EoTech? I'll try to get some side by side pics here in a little while.

 

[4g64loser]

So, I bought an EoTech 512 holographic sight a little while ago when PSA had them on sale. I hadn't mounted it on a rifle until Sunday when I took my guns out of the safe to inspect/clean. I also bought one of those really cheap EoTech 512 Chinese knock offs to use on my BB gun or airsoft gun, but to replicate the 512. The real 512 seems to have a blurry, grainy reticle, while the knock off is crisp and clear. The knock off has tinted glass, so it isn't as clear as the EoTech, but the targeting reticle is much, much more clear. I didn't have my contacts in, had my glasses on, so it wasn't my contacts causing the blur, and I don't think my astigmatism is bad with my glasses on. Is this normal for an EoTech? I'll try to get some side by side pics here in a little while.

Are you astigmatic by any chance?

The real eotech is a holographic sight. The knockoff is actually a red dot.

 

[AssMan]

Normal. The reticle is fuzzy on all EoT's if you focus on it. Focus on the target and that effect mostly goes away.

 

[SkiPatrolDude]

I have astigmatism and most red dots don’t work for me. Holographics like the Eotech tend to work much better for me. That said, I know people where the opposite is true.

Take your phone camera and put it up to the eye relief. Does it appear crisp through the camera lense?

 

[E.Shell]

Normal. The reticle is fuzzy on all EoT's if you focus on it. Focus on the target and that effect mostly goes away.

As above, if you focus on the reticle, it goes grainy. If you focus on the target, the reticle sharpens up and is fine.

 

[Bountied]

Put a magnifier on it. It will look amazing. Mine was the same way. I thought it was messed up until I put a 3X magnifier on it and it was crystal clear and in focus. I think it's the nature of the beast.

 

[E.Shell]

Put a magnifier on it. It will look amazing. Mine was the same way. I thought it was messed up until I put a 3X magnifier on it and it was crystal clear and in focus. I think it's the nature of the beast.

Because the magnifier is focused on the target.

 

[Biggfoot44]

I have astigmatism and most red dots don’t work for me. Holographics like the Eotech tend to work much better for me.

That said, I know people where the opposite is true.

Really ? I though it was inherent with the nature of Astigmatism . Could there be other similar- ish conditions ?

 

[Bountied]

Because the magnifier is focused on the target.

True, in order to use the holdover dots you really need to use a magnifier or the little dots are just blurry. The left image is what the reticle looks like normally with no magnification. The one on the right is what mine looked like with the 3X. I had a EXPS3 though. I sold it for a Romeo 5.

 

[E.Shell]

Before my eye surgery, I had increasingly severe astigmatism. Red dots were fragented and I just had to pick the brightest clump to use as a reference. My EOTechs were almost impossible to use past about 25 yards.

I had the lenses replaced in both eyes to correct cataracts and the astigmatism, and my vision is mostly corrected. Now, dots are much better, not perfect but quite usable. The EOTechs are now usable as well, but not quite as much improvement as the dots.

 

[jrumann59]

True, in order to use the holdover dots you really need to use a magnifier or the little dots are just blurry. The left image is what the reticle looks like normally with no magnification. The one on the right is what mine looked like with the 3X. I had a EXPS3 though. I sold it for a Romeo 5.
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I love the XPS3

 

[erwos]

Fuzzy reticle is a feature. Focus on the target.

 

[Sirex]

Are you astigmatic by any chance?

The real eotech is a holographic sight. The knockoff is actually a red dot.

Yes, I have an astigmatism, which is amplified by my contacts even though they are toric lenses and supposed to help. I had my glasses on. The reticle is REAL fuzzy. I was just not sure because I figured for $300+ it would be clearer.

 

[Sirex]

As above, if you focus on the reticle, it goes grainy. If you focus on the target, the reticle sharpens up and is fine.

Thanks I will try that.

 

[4g64loser]

Yes, I have an astigmatism, which is amplified by my contacts even though they are toric lenses and supposed to help. I had my glasses on. The reticle is REAL fuzzy. I was just not sure because I figured for $300+ it would be clearer.

One of the guys went to the green reticle and said it helped. He's astigmatic and that's why I asked if you were.

Ed's post about target focusing is spot on for dots and holos.

 

[calicojack]

Normal. It's sort of a razzle dazzle effect.

 

[calicojack]

I seem to have less of a star burst effect with an EOTech as opposed to a normal red dot as a result of astigmatism.

 

[firemn260]

Eotechs all look pixelated or fuzzy to me too because of astigmatism. As long as I’m focusing on the target, it won’t affect my shooting. Even red dots for me are not very sharp especially on the brighter settings but I have killed more than a few deer with them out to 100 or so yards without issue.

 

[sailskidrive]

15 years year ago my ex's father looked through a 512 I had at the time and had the same complaint.

He loved my Aimpoint.