Surprised to see that as well.Has MDS gone woke? Guy wants to buy a big new gun and the first few posts are all trying to talk him out of it...
That’s niceMine was originally a goose gun with a 36" barrel from H&R. In the early 80's it was cut down to 24". It's pretty compact. Here it is next to a Mossberg 500 with a 20" barrel. It hurts my shoulder and wallet when I shoot it.
I dunno, 10 ga throws a pretty dense shot cloud out there. It offers some pretty big performance benefits over 3.5" 12 ga for hitting geese that are far away. My buddy with the aforementioned bps 10 has taken a LOT of geese with it.I see a 10 ga shotgun kind of in the same firearm category that I see things like the 50 Desert Eagle, 500 S&W, and the Barrett 50 cal - they fall right on that spectrum where they are interesting, theoretically useful, but not very practical.
With that said, I also understand when someone has the desire to obtain something out of that category - practical or not, they are pretty cool. I wish you luck finding what you're looking for.
But see - right there you said it - it's kind of a one-trick pony for a specific task - being a longer-range goose gun. I don't hunt geese, so it's not going to be something I'm too keen on adding to my gun accumulation because it's not something I'd shoot recreationally.I dunno, 10 ga throws a pretty dense shot cloud out there. It offers some pretty big performance benefits over 3.5" 12 ga for hitting geese that are far away. My buddy with the aforementioned bps 10 has taken a LOT of geese with it.
Schrader's sporting clays on the Eastern Shore has several stations where you shoot down over a quarry lake. Very interesting to see how your shot string looks when it hits the water. Also easy to see if you are in front or behind the target. Shotkam on the cheap.Shot travels in a string more so that a cloud is what I always thought that’s why follow through keeping the gun moving is so important.
Shot travels in a string more so that a cloud is what I always thought that’s why follow through keeping the gun moving is so important.
Thanks, I know how shot travels having enough experience and a student of Col Askins excellent books not mention being a wing shot for many years now.Shot all leaves the muzzle at more or less the same time. Its all sitting in the cup which isn't terribly long. Its not like some pellets are exiting the muzzle while some others are still just getting started back at the breech. Its not how it works.
Technically there is no point to follow through once the shot leaves the barrel. What you do with the gun after its out there doesn't affect it at all. The reason follow through is taught (and still a good idea) is that folks tend to pull the trigger and stop swinging. Well, they anticipate the shot and really stop swinging either during or slightly before they pull the trigger causing them to miss. Smooth is good.
Shot travels more in a flat disc than a cloud. Or maybe think of it as a mostly flat beach ball. It all leaves the muzzle at the same speed (nestled tightly in the wad cup). Shot that isn't perfectly round will start to stray off to the sides. There are then other aerodynamic forces at play. The wake turbulence of the shot in the front causes the ones behind to start to deviate off the to sides too. So by the time it reaches the target it will have dispersed fore/aft a little but a whole lot to the sides.
Shhhh 8ga is illegal for waterfowl.There is only 6% difference in their bore diameter (0.775" vs 0.749"). That results in 13% more area for the pressure to initially accelerate the load. Realistically, it probably makes darn near no practical difference in shot dispersion.
The appeal of 10ga was more shot. AFAIK, they are all 3.5" shells. The 3.5" 12ga wasn't introduced until ~1988 (I had to look that up)
Since 12ga is rated to higher SAAMI pressures (14ksi vs 11ksi) a 3.5" 12ga should be able to deliver almost as much shot at considerably higher velocity even though its running at a very slight area disadvantage.
Now if the OP had wanted an 8ga...
And dredge boats!Shhhh 8ga is illegal for waterfowl.
I think its the powder. Double based or progressive burning bulk powders.There is only 6% difference in their bore diameter (0.775" vs 0.749"). That results in 13% more area for the pressure to initially accelerate the load. Realistically, it probably makes darn near no practical difference in shot dispersion.
The appeal of 10ga was more shot. AFAIK, they are all 3.5" shells. The 3.5" 12ga wasn't introduced until ~1988 (I had to look that up)
Since 12ga is rated to higher SAAMI pressures (14ksi vs 11ksi) a 3.5" 12ga should be able to deliver almost as much shot at considerably higher velocity even though its running at a very slight area disadvantage.
Now if the OP had wanted an 8ga...
That looks cool I have an old Stevens pump with the 36in barrel take down model those long barrels are coolMine was originally a goose gun with a 36" barrel from H&R. In the early 80's it was cut down to 24". It's pretty compact. Here it is next to a Mossberg 500 with a 20" barrel. It hurts my shoulder and wallet when I shoot it.
Back in the stone age, one of my classmates used to hunt in the mornings before class; a 115 pound blonde knockout. She put a lot of waterfowl on her family’s table with that 10 gage and embarrassed a lot of the neighborhood boys just lugging that thing out to the blind.I dunno, 10 ga throws a pretty dense shot cloud out there. It offers some pretty big performance benefits over 3.5" 12 ga for hitting geese that are far away. My buddy with the aforementioned bps 10 has taken a LOT of geese with it.