7 day wait

[dblas]

I got bit by the Hogan declared state holiday on Friday. Should have received the email on Saturday 12/24 and was planning on heading to the FFL for transfer being they were opened for a few hours Christmas Eve. Received the email Christmas morning. Will be heading out this morning for transfer on the 10th day. MD is one fvcked up state???

Holiday only affects you if your 7th day was on that Friday, otherwise it shouldn't have.
As mentioned, if the 7th day falls on a Sunday, or a Holiday, then the "not disapproved" is received on the 8th day.

 

[dblas]

So what I find odd is with Friday and Monday being observed state holidays the 77r’s I sent in last Tuesday should take until Thursday but they are all good to go tomorrow. So as usual there is a gray area because there are times the holidays hasn’t caused any delay.

See the actual state law, a holiday and Sunday only count if they are the 7th day, at which point your "not disapproved" comes on the 8th day. There is no "grey" area, only MSP shinanigans.

 

[RRomig]

Yeah no rhyme or reason

 

[dblas]

Yeah no rhyme or reason

BINGO.

 

[Art3]

I don't get the "Friday was a holiday" problem
I submitted paperwork Friday 12/16 (late in the day, too), got my email and picked up Friday 12/23

 

[Art3]

I know we're supposed to be all curmudgeonly and hate technology, new things, and change...but, honestly the electronic system has been great to me I've bought more guns through it that the old paper way (which is kind of a lot), and never been delayed. Actually, I've never been delayed electronically. I HAVE been delayed paper-tronically at least once...on my very first purchase that started on my 21st birthday.

Waking up to the email is so much nicer than having to call the shop and ask if I'm good to go...and worrying about whether they might not release...or if they want to be a stickler and wait until they get that days' mail.

It's not like you even have to remember an additional password...since it's alway out of date and needs to be reset anyway

Maybe it is rough on the Amish, but anyone who can figure out MDS (and how to get an HQL) should be able to handle the 77r (e?)

 

[DaemonAssassin]

What is this 7 day wait you are talking about? I've been walking into shops and walking out with handguns and lowers, mere minutes after doing the paperwork.

 

[rseymorejr]

Maybe it is rough on the Amish, but anyone who can figure out MDS (and how to get an HQL) should be able to handle the 77r (e?)

I know you're sort of joking there but the same people that screech that asking for a photo ID for someone to vote is racist and ageist also have no problem demanding that someone have access to the internet and a computer to exercise their Second Amendment rights. (in addition to paying Transfer and HQL fees)

 

[Biggfoot44]

Actually , my friends LGS in St Mary's does do a lot of business with the Amish .

 

[Acs]

I bought a KN 509 on Monday 12-26. Needed a nicer CC firearm. 7 days would be 1-1 Sunday counting 12-26 so I assume I could pick up Monday 1-2?. It’s literally been almost 10 years since I purchased a pistol as I refused to get the HQL until I was able to get the HGP

 

[pop-gunner]

Sundays, and holidays can't be counted as the 7th day.

 

[dannyp]

The word "working" is absolutely no where in state statute. It is 7 calendar days per state statute.

this , you get the email on the seventh day .

 

[Biggfoot44]

I bought a KN 509 on Monday 12-26. Needed a nicer CC firearm. 7 days would be 1-1 Sunday counting 12-26 so I assume I could pick up Monday 1-2?. It’s literally been almost 10 years since I purchased a pistol as I refused to get the HQL until I was able to get the HGP

1/2/23 is the actual Holiday .

 

[Mini14tac]

I don't get the "Friday was a holiday" problem
I submitted paperwork Friday 12/16 (late in the day, too), got my email and picked up Friday 12/23

Mine was submitted on Saturday morning 12/17. Should have received my email for pickup at 6:00am Saturday 12/24 but did not receive it until 6:00am Sunday 12/25 Christmas Day. Go figure.

 

[Acs]

1/2/23 is the actual Holiday .

Okay so that Would be 9 Days from day of submittal till I can pick up or 8 days if you do not count the day submitted

 

[Middleman]

I hate the wait, but the thing I hate more is that the HQL doesn’t eliminate the wait.

And what I hate even more is that all ready owning a pistol doesn’t eliminate the wait. If I was intent on doing harm to myself or others wouldn’t I use what I have in my possession.

 

[Derek]

Here's the advisory for the eighth day release from the MDSP:
https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Licensing Division Documents/Advisory LD_FRS_13-001.pdf

 

[Derek]

https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/laws/StatuteText?article=gps&section=5-123&enactments=false
Article - Public Safety



§5–123.

(a) A licensee may not sell, rent, or transfer a regulated firearm until after 7 days following the time a firearm application is executed by the firearm applicant, in triplicate, and the original is forwarded by the prospective seller or transferor to the Secretary.

(b) A licensee shall complete the sale, rental, or transfer of a regulated firearm within 90 days after the firearm application was stamped by the Secretary as not being disapproved.

(c) (1) If the sale, rental, or transfer of a regulated firearm is not completed within 90 days after the firearm application was stamped by the Secretary as not being disapproved, a licensee shall return the firearm application to the Secretary within 7 days.

(2) The Secretary shall void a firearm application returned under paragraph (1) of this subsection as an incomplete sale, rental, or transfer.

(d) (1) (i) A licensee who sells, rents, or transfers a regulated firearm in compliance with this subtitle shall forward a copy of the written notification of the completed transaction to the Secretary within 7 days after delivery of the regulated firearm.

(ii) The notification shall contain an identifying description of the regulated firearm, including its caliber, make, model, any manufacturer’s serial number, and any other special or peculiar characteristic or marking by which the regulated firearm may be identified.

(2) The Secretary shall maintain a permanent record of all notifications received of completed sales, rentals, and transfers of regulated firearms in the State.

 

[dblas]

Here's the advisory for the eighth day release from the MDSP:
https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Licensing Division Documents/Advisory LD_FRS_13-001.pdf

https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/laws/StatuteText?article=gps&section=5-123&enactments=false
Article - Public Safety



§5–123.

(a) A licensee may not sell, rent, or transfer a regulated firearm until after 7 days following the time a firearm application is executed by the firearm applicant, in triplicate, and the original is forwarded by the prospective seller or transferor to the Secretary.

(b) A licensee shall complete the sale, rental, or transfer of a regulated firearm within 90 days after the firearm application was stamped by the Secretary as not being disapproved.

(c) (1) If the sale, rental, or transfer of a regulated firearm is not completed within 90 days after the firearm application was stamped by the Secretary as not being disapproved, a licensee shall return the firearm application to the Secretary within 7 days.

(2) The Secretary shall void a firearm application returned under paragraph (1) of this subsection as an incomplete sale, rental, or transfer.

(d) (1) (i) A licensee who sells, rents, or transfers a regulated firearm in compliance with this subtitle shall forward a copy of the written notification of the completed transaction to the Secretary within 7 days after delivery of the regulated firearm.

(ii) The notification shall contain an identifying description of the regulated firearm, including its caliber, make, model, any manufacturer’s serial number, and any other special or peculiar characteristic or marking by which the regulated firearm may be identified.

(2) The Secretary shall maintain a permanent record of all notifications received of completed sales, rentals, and transfers of regulated firearms in the State.

Thanks for posting what we already knew.

 

[Acs]

my 12/26/22 FN 509 purchase still has not cleared. Maybe tomorrow