Another Gooberment shutdown...?!

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  • Feb 28, 2013
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    OMG!! It's the end of the world!! The federal Gooberment may be shut down!!:omg:

    For all the hoo-hah surrounding shutdowns of the federal Gooberment, which by the way happens every friday at 5:00, they're damn sure quicker than hell to do it in a snowstorm. Damned if Pax River wasn't all but deserted today.:rolleyes:
     

    eddiek2000

    Sweet Lemonade!!
    Feb 11, 2008
    5,774
    Southern Maryland - Chuck Co.
    Not really a fair statement IMHO. Pax RARELY closes for snow vs the DC area. I'm on TDY and not home, so I haven't seen it for myself. But usually I am home and my wife is risking her life to get to work at PAX.
     

    Mike96ZJ

    Member
    Mar 1, 2009
    39
    California, MD
    Try explaining that the base is closed when your HQ is in Baltimore and they have no snow at all. Usually it's the exact opposite and I am at work on the "liberal leave" days and doing nothing but watching netflix since no one else is working. But hey at least I don't have to burn a day of leave.

    For the record i took a leave day yesterday and sat at home with my son all day. Totally worth it.
     

    AC MkIII

    Active Member
    Feb 18, 2011
    929
    Calvert
    They hope for that. They still get paid no matter what. They passed a law that said there is no reason that their pay can be withheld.

    Can we get a reboot to 1787?

    September 14, 1789
    Congressional Pay
    View of S-1's Spine
    What would be a fair salary for a member of the Senate? The framers of the U.S. Constitution, in their wisdom, dodged that potentially explosive question. Some believed, however, that because senators would probably come from the well-to-do classes, they should receive no salary at all.
    Under the Articles of Confederation—the constitution in effect during the framers’ 1787 deliberations—members of the existing Congress received varying salaries from their individual states. If a state legislature became dissatisfied with one of its representatives in the Continental Congress, it could simply suspend his salary.
    Seeking to narrow state powers over the central government, the Constitution’s authors provided that congressional salaries would come from the federal treasury, with Congress setting the actual amount.
    As one of its first orders of business, the House of Representatives formed a committee to draft congressional pay legislation. The panel recommended six dollars for each day a member attended a session. But Representative James Madison, the Constitution’s principal architect, irritated his fellow House members by proposing that senators be paid more than representatives because they presumably had greater responsibilities under the Constitution. The House ignored Madison and accepted the six-dollar rate for both chambers.
    When the clerk of the House carried the pay bill to the Senate chamber, senators were preoccupied with major legislation establishing cabinet departments, locating the permanent seat of government, and creating the Bill of Rights. Nevertheless they found time for a heated debate on salaries. Pennsylvania’s Robert Morris moved that senators receive two dollars more than House members so that they would not have to live in substandard boarding houses and associate with “improper company.”
    On September 14, 1789, in the face of solid House opposition, the Senate agreed to a curious face-saving arrangement. Senators would receive one dollar more than House members, but not for another six years—and the higher rate would remain in effect for one year only.
    Six years later, senators did receive the extra dollar, but just for a two-week special session in which only the Senate was convened to consider a treaty.
    For the next 187 years, members of both houses received the same rate of pay. Then, in 1983, perhaps as a long-deferred reward for the House’s earlier patience, its members received a higher salary than senators—but only for a few months. Call it even.
    Reference Items:
    U.S. Congress. Senate. The Senate, 1789-1989, Vol. 2, by Robert C. Byrd. 100th Cong., 1st sess., 1991. S. Doc.100-20.
     

    rob-cubed

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    Sep 24, 2009
    5,387
    Holding the line in Baltimore
    Who wouldn't want to be able to vote for their own pay raises and job security? One of the only things that unites both sides of the isle is making their respective positions more comfortable.

    Congress feels a lot like a spoiled union these days.
     

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