AR-15 for Dummies

[Bafflingbs]

My home defense guns:

 

[Bafflingbs]

Same lower in 9mm:

 

[rnj66]

Easy solution is to do a Form 1 and SBR the lower.

A AR is a better offensive weapon
But close quarters, attacked from behind in a hallway, the man armed with a AR even sbr loses.
A handgun takes s twist of the wrist and 8 inched max to point n fire.
Aint happening with AR variant

 

[DaemonAssassin]

A AR is a better offensive weapon
But close quarters, attacked from behind in a hallway, the man armed with a AR even sbr loses.
A handgun takes s twist of the wrist and 8 inched max to point n fire.
Aint happening with AR variant

Common sense in clearing a house prevents people from appearing behind you. Your argument is flawed on so many levels. Even Stevie Wonder can see every flaw in your argument.

 

[rnj66]

Common sense in clearing a house prevents people from appearing behind you. Your argument is flawed on so many levels. Even Stevie Wonder can see every flaw in your argument.

"Home Defense "
We aren't talking breaching doors in Iraq on the "offensive ".
Mayb you could learn from your own flaws that you mention?

 

[DaemonAssassin]

"Home Defense "
We aren't talking breaching doors in Iraq on the "offensive ".
Mayb you could learn from your own flaws that you mention?

Me thinks you can't see beyond your own bias. But you do you.

I never said anything about Iraq. You did. If that is an attempt to dismiss what I said, then you most definitely failed. A SBR can actually be a better HD platform than a pistol. You claim 3 feet in front of you, yet a fully extended AR is 34 inches. Collapsed, it is about 29 inches. A SBR at 29 inches with the stock fully extended is about 24 inches long with the stock collapsed. But when you take into account the position of the stovk in contact with the body, you're looking at 18-20 inches exposed in front of you. 24 inches over all length is pretty compact, but then again, you can't see that because you won't listen to other viewpoints.

 

[smokey]

Biggest concern about AR style weapons.
From 400 to 4000 dollars
They all go BANG. Over n over n over..
For home defence?
They're unwieldy, can't really ",hide" them.
Don't fit in your nightstand or under your pillow.
So personally there are many many better options for thst purpose

You serious Clark?

Seems like you'd benefit from some good training.

 

[Rockzilla]

The venerable AR15 is the grown man's Barbie doll. You can dress it/customize it any way you want.

I like the analysis...interesting but I like

It is what it is...

I'll take the MP5, and be done..Sig 365 and finish..


Some heated discussions on here lately..
Popcorn time. And some Twisted Tea.

 

[DaemonAssassin]

I like the analysis...interesting but I like

It is what it is...

I'll take the MP5, and be done..Sig 365 and finish..


Some heated discussions on here lately..
Popcorn time. And some Twisted Tea.

If you have the popcorn, I'll show up with Yuengling.

 

[Rockzilla]

If you have the popcorn, I'll show up with Yuengling.

Sounds good, got some Grande Mariner.
Got plenty of popcorn..sounds like it may be needed..

 

[DaemonAssassin]

Sounds good, got some Grande Mariner.
Got plenty of popcorn..sounds like it may be needed..

I'll be on my way as soon as I load 10 cases of Yuengling into the truck.

Want me to bring Old Bay or J.O. Spice for the popcorn?

 

[willtill]

Common sense in clearing a house prevents people from appearing behind you. Your argument is flawed on so many levels. Even Stevie Wonder can see every flaw in your argument.

(sorry, your post just brought the meme out of me...)

 

[Rockzilla]

I'll be on my way as soon as I load 10 cases of Yuengling into the truck.

Want me to bring Old Bay or J.O. Spice for the popcorn?

10 cases, couple bottles of GM, take the rest of the day, week off...Either ..or...partial to Ole Bay..but it dont matter.

Some of these threads go off topjc in a instance ( just like this one now, me ) just sit back and read some of them, and laugh, grown adults at least age wise.
Just in general..not directed to any one person.
I don't care what you use for defense, I don't care what your everyday carry is, I don't care if you spend $300 or $10,000 on your handgun. Everyone has their idea of "something" some well taken others ..well..
Bottom line is when that time comes, that will tell the story.
Build a 1911 or buy a 1911, buy a low end 1911 and change it for your wants / needs, or buy a custom 1911 that you check the box build.

AR's, you can do all kinds of things to em, paint em, "bling em", find more ways to hang crap off em, all over em, bottom line its still a AR.

Like a Pinto, drop in a 302, roll cage, new rear, Trans, tub it, paint it .. its still a Pinto. May sound good, may look good and fast, but its still a Pinto, same can be said with a Vega.

So to the AR *OP* question
Building well its not really building all your doing is basically assembling ( we can debate this in another topic )
Several things to take into consideration, is how far these 2 rounds will go through your living quarters, children, where they are, etc.these days "cracker box house" walls won't stop bullets, even other older houses for that matter. The 5.56 would probably be an all around choice for short or semi distance. If your looking for just one option. The 9mm in home, you can assemble various length 9mm AR'S staying within the Fed's guidelines (SBR the lower like mentioned). Plus if you have a handgun in 9mm, you now have 2 possible protection means. Either ...or...
So the decision is assemble or buy, they ain't that hard to assemble, find soneone, either watch them, there are tons of videos out there. Find some one who will let you shoot various different ones.. and go from there
No expert, don't even claim to be, don't wanna be.

Prefer the MP5 ( built from parts kit ) or a clone..

Anyway Popcorn, seasoning, adult beverages sounds great. Start a U-tube channel of it.

Back on topjc... wheres the Water Cooler when you need it
Still think a sub-forum needs to be created for "Rants n Rages" 50 posts or better
let the "quotes" and such begin.

Now..Where's that "seasoned popcorn and adult beverages "


-Rock

 

[Bountied]

Common sense in clearing a house prevents people from appearing behind you. Your argument is flawed on so many levels. Even Stevie Wonder can see every flaw in your argument.

I see what he is saying. You can shoot behind you movie style much easier with a pistol than an Ar varient. Think John Wick. But if you start clearing in your bedroom then you may not need that option, an Ar would work too. It all depends.

 

[Pale Ryder]

I’d go with the Zion over Hanover built AR’s as Ski Patrol Dude said.
I’d also take an AR over the PCC first.
Later if you like, get the PCC for fun.
I keep a couple HG’s accessible for HD.
LG’s for recreation, and social needs locked up til needed. I don’t have kids in the house anymore.

 

[calicojack]

I’d also take an AR over the PCC first.
Later if you like, get the PCC for fun.
I keep a couple HG’s accessible for HD.

These are my thoughts as well. PCCs are a lot of fun and (in 9mm) the ammo is cheaper.

 

[calicojack]

One thing I'll add; I don't like 5.56 in barrels under 11.5"; a waste of unburned powder and the effectiveness of the rounds starts to suffer IMHO. The military went from 10.5" to 11.5" in 5.56 commando rifles for a reason. Now 300 Blackout - different story.

[EDIT] And 300 Blackout in with an 8 or 9" barrel and a can as a pistol - might be just the thing for HD and/or range toy.

 

[wpage]

Home Defense like home improvement...

Chose your hammer and enjoy!

 

[rnj66]

I see what he is saying. You can shoot behind you movie style much easier with a pistol than an Ar varient. Think John Wick. But if you start clearing in your bedroom then you may not need that option, an Ar would work too. It all depends.

I think some people are severely confused.
Home defense, will typically not be "you'll clear the room "
Noooo
It's you'll be asleep. Caught off guard, mayb hear a noise n wake up and go look to see what you heard. And whoever is in your home blind sides you from a doorway as you head dazed half asleep .
And WON'T have room to swing a AR around

 

[teratos]

I think some people are severely confused.
Home defense, will typically not be "you'll clear the room "
Noooo
It's you'll be asleep. Caught off guard, mayb hear a noise n wake up and go look to see what you heard. And whoever is in your home blind sides you from a doorway as you head dazed half asleep .
And WON'T have room to swing a AR around

I’ll disagree. I’ll reach for a suppressed SBR in 5.56 in the event there is an intruder. It’s a better offensive round. Plus there are the pretty lights I’ve trained with for a while. Muscle memory for light and/or laser if needed. We have a plan in our house. It doesn’t involve walking past doors. Better

You will most definitely not be half asleep if you realize someone is in your home. You’ll be wide awake.