can you transport sbr with 16" upper to PA without 5320

[blksniper2000]

If you put a 16" non nfa upper on a nfa ar15 sbr lower can you transport it out of state without a 5320? The question was posed to me recently and I could have swore I read somewhere you could but I'm not 100% sure so I figured I would ask the consensus

 

[rsideout]

Yes, you can. Just don't have and SBR length upper with you or put one on while you are out of state.

 

[Klunatic]

+1

Consensus 100%, Yes. Leave SBR upper at home. /thread

 

[blksniper2000]

Ok great I thought so, thanks guys

 

[5.56blaster]

Wouldn't the serial numbered receiver still be an NFA registered SBR no matter what upper was on it? If it has a Form 1or4 assigned to it, it's an NFA gun. If I have an AOW shotgun and put an 18" barrel on it, its still an AOW per the form 4. I think you need the Form 5320 if your crossing state lines with NFA items. I would call BATFE before you do anything. Better safe then sorry!

 

[StantonCree]

So I'm ignoarant on NFA but this peaked my interest and since the OP was answered let me ask this.

Can he not transport the SBR out of state?

 

[rsideout]

Wouldn't the serial numbered receiver still be an NFA registered SBR no matter what upper was on it? If it has a Form 1or4 assigned to it, it's an NFA gun. If I have an AOW shotgun and put an 18" barrel on it, its still an AOW per the form 4. I think you need the Form 5320 if your crossing state lines with NFA items. I would call BATFE before you do anything. Better safe then sorry!

Nope. ATF responded to this question in writing years ago. Its been addressed in the NFA section of MDS a number of times before, and the ATF letter has been posted.

 

[rsideout]

So I'm ignoarant on NFA but this peaked my interest and since the OP was answered let me ask this.

Can he not transport the SBR out of state?

it depends upon the state. Some states, like Iowa, do not allow ownership of SBRs, or their transport into the state. So ATF will not approve a 5320.20 to that state.

 

[outrider58]

it depends upon the state. Some states, like Iowa, do not allow ownership of SBRs, or their transport into the state. So ATF will not approve a 5320.20 to that state.

^^^It depends on the state. Same with suppressors and all other NFA items.

 

[SneakySh0rty]

You can, unless there is a newer letter than this. I remember ATF used to have a segment addressing this question on their but for the life of me can't find it

 

[StantonCree]

it depends upon the state. Some states, like Iowa, do not allow ownership of SBRs, or their transport into the state. So ATF will not approve a 5320.20 to that state.

^^^It depends on the state. Same with suppressors and all other NFA items.

Thank you gents. I always fight with getting into the NFA world but there are a ton of rules and these days I mostly shoot inside so I really try to find a reason for a supressor but haven't come up with one yet!!

 

[krucam]

Suppressors are exempt from the 5320 req, correct?

 

[rsideout]

Suppressors are exempt from the 5320 req, correct?

Yes

 

[5.56blaster]

Nope. ATF responded to this question in writing years ago. Its been addressed in the NFA section of MDS a number of times before, and the ATF letter has been posted.

I only have machine guns so I do the paperwork. Thanks for the info.

 

[Klunatic]

Thank you gents. I always fight with getting into the NFA world but there are a ton of rules and these days I mostly shoot inside so I really try to find a reason for a supressor but haven't come up with one yet!!

I'd say shooting inside is a perfect reason to suppress your guns. Its really not that complicated to get into nfa items. Just ask one of us to help guide you. Plus you already know Mike j Greg @ A1. They are a great NFA resource.

 

[StantonCree]

I'd say shooting inside is a perfect reason to suppress your guns. Its really not that complicated to get into nfa items. Just ask one of us to help guide you. Plus you already know Mike j Greg @ A1. They are a great NFA resource.

By that you 100% mean enablers!!!!

 

[Klunatic]

Exactly

 

[Biggfoot44]

Yes you may, but also leave your AR Pistol at home.

Supressors and AOW do not require Form 20 , but please verify for yourself legality at destination and all intermeadate areas.

 

[outrider58]

Suppressors are exempt from the 5320 req, correct?

Yes, but there are states where suppressors are banned:

https://silencerco.com/suppressed/

 

[swinokur]

ATF NFA handbook.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/atf-national-firearms-act-handbook-atf-p-53208/download
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