MSP advisory on high capacity magazines

[RFBfromDE]

Is that one of those Latin terms one learns in Medical School, Dr M?

How would you say SABOD ranks with EABOD so far as level of intense disgust is concerned?

Above or below?

 

[Ponder_MD]

Maryland is a small state surrounded by more free states.
There are lots of reasons to visit them. Skiiing, camping, tourism such as Gettysburg and of course, shopping.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Maryland is a small state surrounded by more free states.
There are lots of reasons to visit them. Skiiing, camping, tourism such as Gettysburg and of course, shopping.

Post of the day.

I like to support the little guy which might mean I recommend shopping local. I will do so for gun purchases, fishing etc.

However, if it means being free vs being told what I can and cannot buy, I am going to the free places that are legal to do so.

 

[winch]

The way I read it, magazines can be pinned or blocked.

 

[tomcatfan]

Infringements are gonna infringe...

 

[Chauchat]

Correct, Maryland law ends at the state line.

And at the fence lines up at Forts Meade and Detrick and Andrews AFB per the US Constitution.

 

[Mark75H]

The way I am reading this is they are saying MD FFL's cannot disassemble a standard capacity mag and sell it without blocking it. All that is necessary to comply with this is to include a part to block the mag so it is no longer a high capacity mag. If you are an FFL just never sell a standard capacity mag; always sell parts kits to make mags with capacity of 10 rounds or less.

 

[alucard0822]

The way I read it, magazines can be pinned or blocked.

pin, block, plug. "readily" is a grey area without much guidance by the law, and they admit the ATF doesn't define it either. One of those things that ends up being easy to charge, hard to convict. I know some just drill a hole and insert a roll pin, and the MSgestapo is OK with that, so might be as simple as taking off the floorplate and dropping a piece of wooden dowel a couple inches long in the mag with 0 permanent modifications. That is what the DNR defines as "blocking" a shotgun tube magazine for waterfowl, and could easily be just as defensible in court as anything from adding a pin, or epoxying in a block. Of course it's stupid, and think it was mostly about "rebuild kits" where online shops would ship a a disassembled mag.

 

[Bountied]

Most FFLs have been doing this all along. Why is this a new thing? Are they just making sure everyone knows again? The FFL will either only accept 10 round mags to be shipped in, no mags, or they will block the mags that came with the gun. This how all of my dealing have been in MD, mostly...

 

[Bountied]

pin, block, plug. "readily" is a grey area without much guidance by the law, and they admit the ATF doesn't define it either. One of those things that ends up being easy to charge, hard to convict. I know some just drill a hole and insert a roll pin, and the MSgestapo is OK with that, so might be as simple as taking off the floorplate and dropping a piece of wooden dowel a couple inches long in the mag with 0 permanent modifications. That is what the DNR defines as "blocking" a shotgun tube magazine for waterfowl, and could easily be just as defensible in court as anything from adding a pin, or epoxying in a block. Of course it's stupid, and think it was mostly about "rebuild kits" where online shops would ship a a disassembled mag.

Good point. The rebuild kits were a loophole that they seem to be closing. The wooden dowel kind of is too. But popping the base plate off isn't that easy and requires some kind of tool so not really readily reversible. More like mostly kind of readily reversible.

 

[Mark75H]

Yes, I think MSP is acting on FFL's disassembling mags and letting buyers buy them apart regardless of capacity of the parts.

None of the FFL's I deal with will be affected; all of mine are blocking mags that need it.

Loose dowls and broken popscile sticks are the most common things I see ... and they are common in every sense of the word.

 

[dblas]

Does this affect local shops who pin magazines for customers?

The answer to your question is in the third paragraph of the letter that was posted in the OP.

 

[rseymorejr]

Sounds like some jackass called the MSP to ask about having their FFL disassemble mags for them

 

[outrider58]

This^^^
Plus, to me, it's a wink and a nod by the state to have your FFL send to an out of state dealer of your choosing where one can pick them up. Maybe pay a nominal fee?

Read this paragraph again(below)...

If you have an out of state FFL who would cooperate with you, you can have your standard capacity mags sent to them and you pick them of outside of Merryland. It's a win-win.

 

[Buster Brown]

Read this paragraph again(below)...

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If you have an out of state FFL who would cooperate with you, you can have your standard capacity mags sent to them and you pick them of outside of Merryland. It's a win-win.

I read it as they can sell to an "out of state individual" not an "in state individual".
They've been saying that. There are grey areas such as buying online from "out of state stores" while you're technically "out of state" and have it sent to another "out of state" ffl.
The way I understand that is, say you have an ffl in pa that you're cool with and happen to be working in VA one day. You could order from say, arms of america for your AK mags and have them sent to your PA ffl for pickup.

 

[outrider58]

I read it as they can sell to an "out of state individual" not an "in state individual".
They've been saying that. There are grey areas such as buying online from "out of state stores" while you're technically "out of state" and have it sent to another "out of state" ffl.
The way I understand that is, say you have an ffl in pa that you're cool with and happen to be working in VA one day. You could order from say, arms of america for your AK mags and have them sent to your PA ffl for pickup.

In many cases, you can order mags and have them sent anywhere in the country as long as the seller doesn't care what your billing address is. You don't need an FFL for that.

 

[slsc98]

Maryland is a small state surrounded by more free states.
There are lots of reasons to visit MOVE TO them. ..

tweaked it a bit …

 

[rbird7282]

Nice how they're trying to say out of state mag sales to out of state individuals need to go through an out of state FFL.
MARYLAND HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER TRANSACTIONS/SALES IN OTHER STATES.

Exactly. Now MSP is now saying that parts kits can't be sold to (non exempt) Marylanders, I swear they are just making sh*t up now. Hey MSP, go eat a giant bag of dicks.

 

[RFBfromDE]

How would you say SABOD ranks with EABOD so far as level of intense disgust is concerned?

Above or below?

Exactly. Now MSP is now saying that parts kits can't be sold to (non exempt) Marylanders, I swear they are just making sh*t up now. Hey MSP, go eat a giant bag of dicks.

In an unprecedented breach of etiquette, he went straight to GEAGBOD!

 

[CrueChief]

This should be a fight club sort of discussion.