Plum Crazy Firearms C-15 Complete Lower quick review

[JoeBobOutfitters.com]

And for .22LR builds, if you use the Chiappa .22LR upper. I actually rather think it would be a better deal than even the 15-22.

Just make sure to either A: Shave your polymer hammer width down a bit with a dremel (what I did) or B: Replace the hammer with a Blowback PCF hammer. Some blowback operated uppers may be slightly different proportionally with the carrier which can interfere with the PCF wider polymer hammer.

 

[JoeBobOutfitters.com]

We now have these lowers incoming in huge waves and are shipping out within about 3 business days of time of order.

New Frontier Armory Lowers

Same mold as the Plum Crazy,upgraded spring kit, upgraded polymer blend....and $20 cheaper (introductory price, will probably end up $109.95 for singles and $99.95+ for 2 or more lowers at a time).

 

[zombiehunter]

We now have these lowers incoming in huge waves and are shipping out within about 3 business days of time of order.

New Frontier Armory Lowers

Same mold as the Plum Crazy,upgraded spring kit, upgraded polymer blend....and $20 cheaper (introductory price, will probably end up $109.95 for singles and $99.95+ for 2 or more lowers at a time).

w00t! Picking one of these up and a bunch of other stuff next paycheck.

 

[chris12138]

We now have these lowers incoming in huge waves and are shipping out within about 3 business days of time of order.

New Frontier Armory Lowers

Same mold as the Plum Crazy,upgraded spring kit, upgraded polymer blend....and $20 cheaper (introductory price, will probably end up $109.95 for singles and $99.95+ for 2 or more lowers at a time).

I'm not an AR guy but I gotta get one of those...

 

[adamwzl]

i think i may grab one of those as well. Now to hunt for a complete upper and a optic w00t!

Thanks JBO!

 

[kohburn]

think I want to SBR one of these.

 

[JoeBobOutfitters.com]

Just an FYI:

ALL of the New Frontier Armory lowers that we are shipping out from 3/1/2012 and later will have redesigned, upgraded takedown pins. The new redesign will keep them from pulling out as easy as with the Plum Crazy lowers and initial run of the New Frontier lowers and will be more rigid. They will also have a redesigned Fire Control Group that won't allow the safety to be engaged with the hammer forward.

This will be on Serial #'s NLV2000+

 

[Phoenixsm]

Just an FYI:

ALL of the New Frontier Armory lowers that we are shipping out from 3/1/2012 and later will have redesigned, upgraded takedown pins. The new redesign will keep them from pulling out as easy as with the Plum Crazy lowers and initial run of the New Frontier lowers and will be more rigid. They will also have a redesigned Fire Control Group that won't allow the safety to be engaged with the hammer forward.

This will be on Serial #'s NLV2000+

Hmmmm... guess I should have waited to buy mine

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[zombiehunter]

Hmmmm... guess I should have waited to buy mine

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Life time warranty? Break it and call them?

 

[JoeBobOutfitters.com]

Hmmmm... guess I should have waited to buy mine

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Unfortunately New Frontier Armory had to "fall down" on previously available inventory and parts in the supply system. Once they saw where they could upgrade things for a better end product for no additional $$$ to the consumer, they started that process to re-engineer some of the products.

Pretty soon there should be available an "upgrade" kit for the FCG and takedown pins. Regardless, they have a lifetime warranty on everything.

 

[km04]

Just an FYI:

ALL of the New Frontier Armory lowers that we are shipping out from 3/1/2012 and later will have redesigned, upgraded takedown pins. The new redesign will keep them from pulling out as easy as with the Plum Crazy lowers and initial run of the New Frontier lowers and will be more rigid. They will also have a redesigned Fire Control Group that won't allow the safety to be engaged with the hammer forward.

This will be on Serial #'s NLV2000+

Sounds like good news. I ordered one on the evening of 3-1-12 and was getting impatient waiting for it to arrive. Now this kinda makes the wait worth it, kinda.

Thanks for the update JoeBob.

 

[Numidian]

Paige wants to build an AR and while shes stronger than 90% of women out there, shooting any rifle off-hand fatigues her quickly. So we are going to build the gun as light as possible and the 6-8oz this lower saves her will be a great start to a lightweight rifle.

 

[jimbobborg]

Paige wants to build an AR and while shes stronger than 90% of women out there, shooting any rifle off-hand fatigues her quickly. So we are going to build the gun as light as possible and the 6-8oz this lower saves her will be a great start to a lightweight rifle.

That and a 10" upper and she'll be fine. Time to get a stamp!

 

[Calengor]

Paige wants to build an AR and while shes stronger than 90% of women out there, shooting any rifle off-hand fatigues her quickly. So we are going to build the gun as light as possible and the 6-8oz this lower saves her will be a great start to a lightweight rifle.

Making the lower lighter just places the center of gravity further forward on the rifle, making it more front heavy, which defeats your purpose if it's her support arm which gets tired.

 

[sailskidrive]

That and a 10" upper and she'll be fine. Time to get a stamp!

Do you know if they intend to offer these in different colors?

 

[JoeBobOutfitters.com]

At this time, no. It probably will be coming up in the future though, no idea when though. Right now they're trying to get a hold on the standard 6pos black market.

 

[Numidian]

Making the lower lighter just places the center of gravity further forward on the rifle, making it more front heavy, which defeats your purpose if it's her support arm which gets tired.

I understand your thinking, but I disagree. The front of the rifle will weigh the same and while the balance will change, the support arm will have less total weight to support.

And if your thinking is correct and I am wrong, we will just swap the lower for the one under my .22lr upper.

 

[Phoenixsm]

Unfortunately New Frontier Armory had to "fall down" on previously available inventory and parts in the supply system. Once they saw where they could upgrade things for a better end product for no additional $$$ to the consumer, they started that process to re-engineer some of the products.

Pretty soon there should be available an "upgrade" kit for the FCG and takedown pins. Regardless, they have a lifetime warranty on everything.

I understand about the lifetime warranty... I also understand that they sold a product that they knew had flaws to the public instead of "eating" them or providing upgrades at no additional cost

 

[JoeBobOutfitters.com]

I understand about the lifetime warranty... I also understand that they sold a product that they knew had flaws to the public instead of "eating" them or providing upgrades at no additional cost

Over time every company is going to make tweaks and upgrades to any product. The previous product wasn't flawed, but wasn't as good as they would have liked it. They in turn had to talk big contract numbers to get the products changed and dump some more money into the injection molding costs. They're just eating the cost of the new dies, etc. Tens of thousands of Plum Crazy lowers are out there with the same exact components, these are just now optimized more.

 

[Numidian]

I understand about the lifetime warranty... I also understand that they sold a product that they knew had flaws to the public instead of "eating" them or providing upgrades at no additional cost

Every product is going to get some post production tweaks. Look at the AR system itself, they made improvements as they realized they were needed or that they could tweak something to make a better product. Look at the A5 buffet system, 50+ years later and people are still finding ways to tweak the system.