Possible problems with the MSP HQL applications???

[Lou45]

I've been checking for the past 10 minutes in the WC and in MD 2A subheadings and didn't see this so sorry if it's a dupe, so here it is. Got word through the grapevine that there are some problems with HQL's in MSP's system or something of the sort. A news story is to be aired tonight on Fox 45 about it during the 10 PM edition.

 

[AACo]

Lou,

I'm guessing we are talking about more than a website issue here? The days I wish I had cable....

 

[Trbo6gn]

Wbal is running a story about how MSP has apparently lose track of thousands of handgun purchases. It also said that 4000 handguns have duplicate serial numbers in the system and can sometimes come back as stolen even though they aren't.

 

[Kman]

How could the failure of MSP managed HQL not have resulted in thousands of deaths?

 

[Lou45]

Lou,

I'm guessing we are talking about more than a website issue here? The days I wish I had cable....

Aaaahhhhh, I'd say an almost certain "yes" to your question. Based on my VERY LIMITED source of info, it sounds like people may be getting HQL's that shouldn't be. HQL's are needed to buy what, handguns???

If a TV news station (Fox at that) is taking the time to air this story, factual or not, there must be at least something to it with merit. Let's tune at 10 PM and see what it's all about.

 

[Lou45]

Wbal is running a story about how MSP has apparently lose track of thousands of handgun purchases. It also said that 4000 handguns have duplicate serial numbers in the system and can sometimes come back as stolen even though they aren't.

This ^^^ was a part of the story I was informed of earlier tonight. I'm wondering if the info here ^^^ pertains to more recent times as opposed to the big push back in 2013 pre October 1st.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Eighth day pick-up extended until the glitch is fixed in 3-2-1...

 

[Trbo6gn]

Link to the story. The wait times to transfer are about to be in the cross hairs again.

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/audit-re...paign=WBAL-TV 11 Baltimore&Content Type=Story

 

[AACo]

Aaaahhhhh, I'd say an almost certain "yes" to your question. Based on my VERY LIMITED source of info, it sounds like people may be getting HQL's that shouldn't be. HQL's are needed to buy what, handguns???

If a TV news station (Fox at that) is taking the time to air this story, factual or not, there must be at least something to it with merit. Let's tune at 10 PM and see what it's all about.

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Of course none of this would be a problem if those pesky handguns weren't for sale to begin with...

 

[protegeV]

Aaaahhhhh, I'd say an almost certain "yes" to your question. Based on my VERY LIMITED source of info, it sounds like people may be getting HQL's that shouldn't be. HQL's are needed to buy what, handguns???

If a TV news station (Fox at that) is taking the time to air this story, factual or not, there must be at least something to it with merit. Let's tune at 10 PM and see what it's all about.

I'll pass on the tv and just watch this thread for the cliff notes

 

[rseymorejr]

So, The government F'd something important up?
Who'd have seen that one coming?

 

[minuit]

I'll pass on the tv and just watch this thread for the cliff notes

Same here

 

[BradyWarrior]

Question

The WBAL article starts off with "a new audit released Tuesday"...my questions are who performed the audit and where can I find a copy? I would like to read the detailed report.

 

[AACo]

The WBAL article starts off with "a new audit released Tuesday"...my questions are who performed the audit and where can I find a copy? I would like to read the detailed report.

https://www.ola.state.md.us/Reports/Fiscal%20Compliance/DSP15.pdf

This one mentions HQL and these issues....but it was released last week.

Edit: After further reading, this should be it. Skip to page 18 for details. It continues for several pages. Yikes!

 

[steves1911]

4000 plus guns with the wrong serial number on paperwork.

 

[BradyWarrior]

https://www.ola.state.md.us/Reports/Fiscal%20Compliance/DSP15.pdf

This one mentions HQL and these issues....but it was released last week.

Edit: After further reading, this should be it. Skip to page 18 for details. It continues for several pages. Yikes!

Thanks, that's it. Notice the cyber security issues...it's lucky they aren't entrusted with our PII...oh wait.

The delayed finalized applications seem to be an issue with the MSP following up with dealers and or dropping the ball on updating the finalized paperwork.

 

[AACo]

Thanks, that's it. Notice the cyber security issues...it's lucky they aren't entrusted with our PII...oh wait.

The delayed finalized applications seem to be an issue with the MSP following up with dealers and or dropping the ball on updating the finalized paperwork.

No problem. OLA is usually in charge of audits for the state. Media just got the dates wrong I guess.

"Numerous individuals were assigned capabilities on ISAB&L that allowed them to approve handgun applications even though they did not require it. For example, 13 individuals had such access capabilities even though they were no longer employed by DSP, and 6 DSP employees did not need the assigned access capabilities to perform their regular job duties. In addition, 14 employees were assigned administrator access capabilities that allowed them to change the status of an application without independent approval (such as from disapproved to not disapproved). Because DSP did not produce an output report of these status changes, improper changes would not be readily detected."

Basic user management here folks.

 

[BradyWarrior]

"Numerous individuals were assigned capabilities on ISAB&L that allowed them to approve handgun applications even though they did not require it. For example, 13 individuals had such access capabilities even though they were no longer employed by DSP, and 6 DSP employees did not need the assigned access capabilities to perform their regular job duties. In addition, 14 employees were assigned administrator access capabilities that allowed them to change the status of an application without independent approval (such as from disapproved to not disapproved). Because DSP did not produce an output report of these status changes, improper changes would not be readily detected."

Basic user management here folks.

Yup.

MSP also wasn't able to find differences between a few rows in ISAB&L and their primary gun registry. Forget SQL, you mean to tell me they don't have a single person there that knows how to use Excel vlookup? Instead they were sampling 10% of the entries like 1940s shop workers when Excel could have done 100% of the job in a millisecond.

 

[Noahdero]

My brother-in-law is going through the HQL process now. I hope this doesn't drag out the "process" or lack there of any longer.