Registering guns is illegal. Why has this not gone to court yet?

[dlmcbm]

According to the Firearm Owners Protection Act signed by Regan in 1986 it is illegal for the government to keep a registry of firearms.

No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s [1] authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926

So why are we letting them do this on a Federal and State level?

 

[Half-cocked]

Because many politicians and people who work for the government believe that they are above the law, and not bound by it.

This isn't sarcasm or rhetoric - there is truly a mindset out there that believes if the government does it, it must be legal.

And sadly, laws like the one you describe carry no penalties for their violation, to give them teeth.

 

[WeaponsCollector]

I will never register my guns regardless of any unconstitutional infringements or illegal legislation passed by domestic enemies of our constitution.
And that's a promise!

 

[Mr H]

I will never register my guns regardless of any unconstitutional infringements or illegal legislation passed by domestic enemies of our constitution.
And that's a promise!

If you buy regulated firearms in MD, we now can be reasonably sure there is a registry.

In the SJPC last week, one of the amendments accepted was to remove the long gun registration requirement. The comment was made (paraphrasing) that people would not need to register them AGAIN.

So we, the Great Unwashed, need keepers who obviously know better how we should live our lives.

 

[Bigfoot21075]

According to the Firearm Owners Protection Act signed by Regan in 1986 it is illegal for the government to keep a registry of firearms.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926

So why are we letting them do this on a Federal and State level?

Currently there is no registry of firearms in Maryland.

**Edited** Forgot the sarcasm icon

 

[dlmcbm]

If you buy regulated firearms in MD, we now can be reasonably sure there is a registry.

In the SJPC last week, one of the amendments accepted was to remove the long gun registration requirement. The comment was made (paraphrasing) that people would not need to register them AGAIN.

So we, the Great Unwashed, need keepers who obviously know better how we should live our lives.

I caught that also. In other words they know what you have.

 

[hvymax]

Currently there is no registry of firearms in Maryland.

Yet they clearly have records of all regulated firearm purchases.

 

[Mr H]

I caught that also. In other words they know what you have.

Correct.

There's nothing more mandatory than a "voluntary" registration program.

 

[dlmcbm]

Currently there is no registry of firearms in Maryland.

I would have to say that there is otherwise they would not have accepted this amendment.

Amendment 4 to SB281

AMENDMENT NO. 4
On page 9, strike beginning with “A” in line 10 down through “(3)” in line 14 and substitute “(I)”; in line 18, strike “(I)” and substitute “1.”; in line 20, strike “(II)” and substitute “2.”; and after line 27, insert:
“(II) A PERSON WHO PURCHASED AN ASSAULT LONG GUN BEFORE OCTOBER 1, 2013, AND REGISTERED THE ASSAULT LONG GUN WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE POLICE IS NOT REQUIRED TO REREGISTER THE ASSAULT LONG GUN UNDER THIS SUBSECTION.”.

 

[Half-cocked]

Currently there is no registry of firearms in Maryland.

The Maryland State Police apparently keeps and enters into a database, all the MSP77 forms, in violation of federal law.

O'Malley demonstrated an interactive map, during a conference of LEO's a couple of years ago, that he proudly claimed showed where gun owners lived.

I wonder what would happen if we put together a website that showed where all the creepy, Big-Brother politicians live?

 

[Mr H]

Good cite.

Apparently, all this time, "Voluntary" only applied to any firearm brought into the state from elsewhere, or purchased before the program began.

We certainly suspected as much, but the curtain has slowly been pulled back.

 

[vector03]

If you buy regulated firearms in MD, we now can be reasonably sure there is a registry.

In the SJPC last week, one of the amendments accepted was to remove the long gun registration requirement. The comment was made (paraphrasing) that people would not need to register them AGAIN.

So we, the Great Unwashed, need keepers who obviously know better how we should live our lives.

Wouldn't the state have to admit they've kept an illegal registry for years if this is the case?

 

[Brooklyn]

According to the Firearm Owners Protection Act signed by Regan in 1986 it is illegal for the government to keep a registry of firearms.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926

So why are we letting them do this on a Federal and State level?

The law is worded so narrowly that it does not cover our state law.


It need s s trip back to congress.

 

[Mr H]

Wouldn't the state have to admit they've kept an illegal registry for years if this is the case?

It's Maryland. IMO, they don't care.

Besides, no one's pushed the issue.

Look at the SCOTUS today... DNA collection. just another example of how MD has no qualms about trampling the individual.

Yesterday in the Senate, the proposed law to keep MTA from recording audo on public transportation was defeated, with Lisa Gladden insisting it's critical to public safety.

They don't care.

They also hate that we push back on gun rights.

 

[dlmcbm]

It's Maryland. IMO, they don't care.

Besides, no one's pushed the issue.

Look at the SCOTUS today... DNA collection. just another example of how MD has no qualms about trampling the individual.

Yesterday in the Senate, the proposed law to keep MTA from recording audo on public transportation was defeated, with Lisa Gladden insisting it's critical to public safety.

They don't care.

They also hate that we push back on gun rights.

The King and his Throne

 

[JAY1234]

I read the copy of my MSP form 77R-2 that I had filled out AFTER I picked up firearm. Section One was labeled "voluntary registration". I, like a dummy filled in the blanks without reading the Section title. I now wonder if the application would have even been submitted had I refused to fill out Section One of MSP for 77R-2 ,and if it was accepted "blank" and submitted, would it have been returned "not disapproved"? By labeling the section as "voluntary registration" I assume they keep the record but since it was "voluntary" it is a legal record.

 

[Pushrod]

I read the copy of my MSP form 77R-2 that I had filled out AFTER I picked up firearm. Section One was labeled "voluntary registration". I, like a dummy filled in the blanks without reading the Section title. I now wonder if the application would have even been submitted had I refused to fill out Section One of MSP for 77R-2 ,and if it was accepted "blank" and submitted, would it have been returned "not disapproved"? By labeling the section as "voluntary registration" I assume they keep the record but since it was "voluntary" it is a legal record.

You would not have been able to purchase that firearm without 'voluntarilly' registering it.

 

[Rack&Roll]

Who cares what R word is used--registry or regulated ? All you have to know is that they have The List whether you like it or not...

 

[Bob Lee $wagger]

Registration = Confiscation

I WILL NOT COMPLY

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I'm just a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns.

 

[Ab_Normal]

The Maryland State Police apparently keeps and enters into a database, all the MSP77 forms, in violation of federal law.

O'Malley demonstrated an interactive map, during a conference of LEO's a couple of years ago, that he proudly claimed showed where gun owners lived.

I wonder what would happen if we put together a website that showed where all the creepy, Big-Brother politicians live?

I think an interactive map of all the anti-gunners would be a wonderful thing. Addresses complete with a 'google' maps picture would certainly be helpful.

Let's do it for the criminal's children.