SAF SUES CHICAGO OVER GUN RANGE PROHIBITION ON 1A, 2A GROUNDS

[Walter]

Chicago got hammered hard. Ouch

 

[Storm40]

when will they reach and release their decision?

 

[krucam]

Two weeks....

 

[Patrick]

Two weeks....

Was waiting for that.

 

[press1280]

Was waiting for that.

After the butt-kicking opinion (in 2 weeks ), will Chicago try to appeal to SCOTUS, and, will we be able to get an opinion from them with a slap down to the "only in the home" lower court nonsense?

 

[krucam]

After the butt-kicking opinion (in 2 weeks ), will Chicago try to appeal to SCOTUS, and, will we be able to get an opinion from them with a slap down to the "only in the home" lower court nonsense?

Daley is certifiably crazy (being nice here) but even they wouldn't be dumb enough to send this one up the food chain. Personally, there are better cases out there for the "in the home" argument than this one.

To Storm40...sorry, it is the standard answer at Calguns to an unknowable answer...I'd guess 2 months tops, 1 if Gura helps them write the Injunction...

 

[Patrick]

Proposed injunction was already written. I think within 2 months is reasonable, though the circuit could go much faster due to the fact that Temporary Restraining Orders are time-sensitive. They are awarded when the damage is ongoing and extreme.

So it makes sense that if they are looking at issuing (or remanding with enough guidance to force the district to issue one) that it might be fast.

 

[yellowfin]

I wonder how many drinks Chicago's lawyer had to guzzle after that. It wouldn't surprise me if he tells them never to ask him to represent that kind of garbage again.

 

[ezliving]

In other news....
Daley bashes Illinois' proposed concealed carry law

http://www.wbez.org/story/concealed-carry/daley-bashes-illinois-proposed-concealed-carry-law-84712#

(Surprise!)

 

[swinokur]

MLK was killed with a rifle, not a concealed pistol IIRC.

Once again, the anti's hysteria and lack of facts or reason is shown in clear contrast to the actual facts. (to me anyway)

 

[Boxcab]

In other news....
Daley bashes Illinois' proposed concealed carry law

http://www.wbez.org/story/concealed-carry/daley-bashes-illinois-proposed-concealed-carry-law-84712#

(Surprise!)

The comments on the article are interesting...

 

[pcfixer]

I believe the 7th Ckt will eventually release audio for arguments at:
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx?dname=arg

Nothing yet...

I listened to this entirely. Gura made some excellent points and I think Chicago lost their arguements.
How can one ban gun ranges in the city? Seems to me like ban library's in the citys so nobody can read to learn english!!

 

[pcfixer]

The comments on the article are interesting...

Wonder if Daley and his sidekicks carry concealed?

 

[Patrick]

The comments on the article are interesting...

Daley invokes the King assassination. One commenter points out that Martin Luther King applied for, but was denied, a pistol carry permit in Alabama in 1956.

My quick scan suggests 100% of the comments are pro-carry. This echoes views from my sisters-in-law and their friends in Chicago. They are young (under 30) and to a person all think shall-issue should pass and be held against Chicago. They are not the typical conservative group - I would generally call them quite liberal.

 

[press1280]

Daley invokes the King assassination. One commenter points out that Martin Luther King applied for, but was denied, a pistol carry permit in Alabama in 1956.

My quick scan suggests 100% of the comments are pro-carry. This echoes views from my sisters-in-law and their friends in Chicago. They are young (under 30) and to a person all think shall-issue should pass and be held against Chicago. They are not the typical conservative group - I would generally call them quite liberal.

Just goes to show freedom can be infectious. IL citizens, when confronted with the facts that most of the country allows public carry, start to ask,"Why not us?"

 

[Boxcab]

My quick scan suggests 100% of the comments are pro-carry.

Same with my scan of the comments. I wonder how long before Baltimore, NY, LA and others cities start seeing "the light"?

Overcoming 80 to 100 years of prejudice against gun ownership will take awhile to overcome.

 

[Patrick]

I'm surprised Baltimore residents are not there yet. That is one violent place.

LA and NYC are relatively peaceful. If they have been trained to believe that peace has come due to the onerous gun laws, they have no reason to doubt it. After all, why change something that works?

We believe that the two are not connected - that fewer guns do not equate to less crime - but we don't vote in those jurisdictions. So our voice rings hollow.

Chicago is falling. Baltimore could be next, but we'd really have to work at it.

 

[ezliving]

Commentary on the Ezell oral arguments: http://lonelymachines.org/2011/04/05/ezell-v-chicago-orals/

Smiles all around.

 

[pcfixer]

Commentary on the Ezell oral arguments: http://lonelymachines.org/2011/04/05/ezell-v-chicago-orals/

Smiles all around.

Plain to see and hear from oral arguments the Chicago has lost it arguement.
I like the part where the judge asked Gura for the wording in the judgement.
Yea...

 

[Patrick]

Chicago boxed themselves in when they banned ranges. It was a strategic blunder of the first order.

Had they just played the zoning issue and not banned all ublic ranges, the fight would have gone on forever and Chicago would have probably prevailed on most points. Courts do not like to overturn zoning decisions. Now every zoning call they make is going to be colored by their dumb arguments and open attempt to limit exercise of the 2A - meaning a court is going to look at their zoning results not as an issue of zoning, but one that also must be suspect as infringing on a fundamental right.

I forgot that Sykes assigned strict in Skoien.

Thanks God we have such nitwits on the other side.