SB281 Real Time Discussion Thread

[zmayhem]

Jacobs is killing it right now with stories of citizens saving lives with concealed carry permits...but just like every other time in these hearings that somebody has made sense and made great points, the senators with their minds already made up are probably not paying attention, playing chess, or sitting there with a smirk on their faces thinking "blah, blah, blah...how long til they're done talking and I can vote against this person that keeps talking..."

 

[AssMan]

Where are the "votes" on each amendment? I don't need a list and the result. I want to know WHO voted for WHAT amendment last night.

 

[Skins_Brew]

Patrick - how do we get this to a referendum vote?

I hate to piss in your cheerios, but this is the state, that through referendum, passed gay marriage and in state tuition for illegals, along with gerrymandering. These bills will get crushed in a referendum.

 

[erwos]

We will lose a referendum in MD. The courts are our best option.

This, although I'd argue that regaining control of the judiciary committees would also be extremely beneficial to us.

 

[ELEMENT94]

Can anyone explain how these new proposed gun laws will get the illegal guns off the street? Are the criminals going to come in and register their illegal guns and submit their fingerprints?

This is not about illegal guns and criminals. It is a prelude to confiscation / outright ban of everything.

 

[csanc123]

This, although I'd argue that regaining control of the judiciary committees would also be extremely beneficial to us.

How could that possibly happen with the Anti dems in control. Won't happen.

 

[Kashmir1008]

Patrick - how do we get this to a referendum vote?

Why would you want a referendum on the civil rights.

Think about it. We live in a State that overwhelmingly voted FOR O'Malley AND Obama.

Would you be willing to risk your 2nd Amendment rights at the hands of those people?

Referendum for civil rights = bad

 

[rhull1971]

This lady is awesome talking about her .38!

 

[cantonglocker]

This is not about illegal guns and criminals. It is a prelude to confiscation / outright ban of everything.

all these years when they said blood in the streets we thought they were talking about CCW

 

[rhull1971]

How could that possibly happen with the Anti dems in control. Won't happen.

True... We've been trying to get rid of Baron Von Frosh for years! Love to see him vacate that position but I think he'd probably have much to say about his successor!

God please keep that idiot from the Attorney Generals office!

 

[frosty]

you get a recall on this message? I did.

Got another version

I did, but no other info except that he;d like to recall the message?

I responded back inquiring what it was about, but nothing yet.

Anyone heard anything else form their senators?


Edit:

I dont think it was recalled due to leaving anything out. They CC'd everyone in the first email instead of BCC'ing them which exposed all their email addresses.

Looking at both copies the wording is the same.

 

[rhull1971]

All of this garbage is hilarious... I cant imagine that it will succeed when it finally gets taken to court... It's so unconstitutional it's rediculous!

 

[tsmith1499]

This is not about illegal guns and criminals. It is a prelude to confiscation / outright ban of everything.

This was brought up last night near the end of the testimony. About there being a disconnect between the citizens and the legislature as wew have seen our rights chipped away at slowly over the years. I don't know who was speaking, but he was good and brought up some good points. Didn't make any difference, but at least he tried.

 

[midcountyg]

Why would you want a referendum on the civil rights.

Think about it. We live in a State that overwhelmingly voted FOR O'Malley AND Obama.

Would you be willing to risk your 2nd Amendment rights at the hands of those people?

Referendum for civil rights = bad

Referendum would be our last chance. At that point it would be a law if it didn't go, so we would have nothing left to loose. It would also be in the mid term election, which is always a lower turn out. If pro 2a people would all register to vote, we could beat it there.

 

[chappy444]

All of this garbage is hilarious... I cant imagine that it will succeed when it finally gets taken to court... It's so unconstitutional it's rediculous!

yeah...its happening in NY right now and these a$$ hats in MD are doing the same thing...

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/gun-l...rove-new-gun-laws-are-constitutional-or-else/

 

[Gbh]

Nancy Jacobs is a Patriot.

 

[JasonB]

Why is there no discussion on the floor about how Miller rigged the vote?

 

[rhull1971]

Referendum would be our last chance. At that point it would be a law if it didn't go, so we would have nothing left to loose. It would also be in the mid term election, which is always a lower turn out. If pro 2a people would all register to vote, we could beat it there.

Absolutely... Look at the turn out on the 8th. Way more of our people showed up. It was like 3000 to 100 (maybe) in our favor. If that's any indication of what would happen in a public vote, it's worth it.

Also, the general public isnt controlled by Von Frosh.

 

[ELEMENT94]

Why is there no discussion on the floor about how Miller rigged the vote?

Whats the point?

 

[jtb81100]

The lady Senator knocked it out of the park ignoring them cutting her off