So after the election where do you think our 2A rights stand?

[dlmcbm]

I want to start off by saying Thank You to you all. I have learned so much on this site. Anything from how our court system works, how much power "WE" really have, What a difference you and I can really make and how important it is to vote. Yesterday I voted for the first time in 20 years (only the second time in my life). Thanks to you all I realized how important it is to vote even if the poles don't go your way.

With the people that were elected yesterday what are your feeling on them and how will they effect our 2A rights here in Maryland and as far as the country is concerned? How do you think this will effect Wollard or other cases out there?

 

[matt.ruszala]

If the current administration continue with plans they have with the UN we will be living in a very different society in the next few years. Google UN, Obama or check out other resources on UN control and policies. Is an AR 15 an assault rifle? The current administration thinks so.
The president may be able to appoint more justices to the Supreme Court. One more socialist is all it will take to change a lot of thing in this country.

 

[ChannelCat]

Regarding the future of the 2A: On the federal level, try as they probably will, there will still be a stiff enough resistance from us on the legislative side so that no further erosion will occur, at least in the short term. The problem is, Obama will load the courts with like minded anti 2A socialists, and thus, the 2A will die from a thousand cuts.

On the state level: I fear that with the engineered defeat of Roscoe Bartlett at the hands of O'Malley and the Maryland Politburo, the upholding of the aforementioned redistricting, the legitimization of in state tuition for lawbreakers, and the attack on traditional marriage, the left with their increased stranglehold will launch an all out assault on the 2A, and there won't be a thing that will stop them.

I fear that we are entering some dark times....

 

[BillNyeScienceGuy]

Well I dont know about you gentlemen but I made it a point to buy as much ammo as possible right after hearing the news.

No, that was not a call to violence but merely a semi-thrifty measure as I foresee the prices of ammo going even higher now.

 

[Mr H]

So after the election where do you think our 2A rights stand?

Teetering, on a precipice, in a stiff wind...

 

[EL1227]

From Katie Pavlich on TownHall.com

What Does a Second Obama Term Mean for Gun Owners?

With the possibility of an Obama re-election and tipping of the Supreme Court in favor of anti-Second Amendment legislation, crucial decisions like Heller and McDonald will be seriously threatened with being overturned. Remember, these cases were both decided with a majority of only 5-4 in favor of upholding the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

But Obama’s anti-Second Amendment agenda won’t stop at the Supreme Court. He’ll have the opportunity to flood the federal courts by filling over half of all federal judgeships with anti-gun fanatics who will rule in favor of Obama’s anti-gun ideology. This will then allow anti-gun interest groups to flood the court system with lawsuits to infringe upon rights of law abiding gun owners.

Refer to THIS THREAD to discuss remedies ...

 

[eruby]

Regarding the future of the 2A: On the federal level, try as they probably will, there will still be a stiff enough resistance from us on the legislative side so that no further erosion will occur, at least in the short term. The problem is, Obama will load the courts with like minded anti 2A socialists, and thus, the 2A will die from a thousand cuts.

On the state level: I fear that with the engineered defeat of Roscoe Bartlett (true ) at the hands of O'Malley and the Maryland Politburo, the upholding of the aforementioned redistricting, the legitimization of in state tuition for lawbreakers, and the attack on traditional marriage, the left with their increased stranglehold will launch an all out assault on the 2A, and there won't be a thing that will stop them.

I fear that we are entering some dark times....

Very well said ChannelCat.

With all the ballot questions passing, I feel Maryland will indeed launch an all out attack. Lots of hard work ahead for us.

 

[Mark75H]

Channel Cat calls it well.

For the future, note that in a lot of the heavily socialist states, Obama only got 60% ... that's not a big 'mandate' to me. There is a real chance of President Christy in 4 years, esp if the best the Democrats can put up is MOM


Also take note, that a lot of "very liberal" judges have become more literal when they got moved up to the big house. Once in a while one has turned out to surprise the liberal establishment into thinking they made a mistake in appointing them.

 

[woodstock]

somewhat doomed.

 

[Mooseman]

I think the 2A just made the endangered species list.

 

[sdOne]

I don't think any reversals will happen on the 2A issue. Whether through pressure we apply or otherwise, Zero has been almost a silent supporter of 2a. Also, Woolard (Woollard?) is still in process, and I have every expectation that our rights will be upheld.

Regarding gay marriage, I was extremely pleased to see that no religious institution would be forced to recognize it. So there is no degradation of traditional (religious) marriage.

And yes, I voted for Johnson. I don't agree at all with either big party position.



Sent from my Little Robotic Tether.

 

[jmcgonig]

I'm not expecting any laws at the federal level. Too many issues that they need both sides to work on and neither have a stomach to even attempt gun control w/o some massive current event that changes the game.

Not sure about the supreme court, can the old dudes hold on for 4 more years...

Locally we are screwed though, this state is becoming more blue not more moderate.

 

[TreadNot]

I simply don't think the U.S. as we know it is going to make it four more years.

Unconstitutional executive orders and bureaucratic mandates have been met with, at most, tepid challenges for the past four years. Now there's nothing to temper the zealotry to move "Forward."

The national debt is in an unstoppable death spiral which will lead to, at best, a massive monetary crisis which will be used as another opportunity to "...fundamentally transform America."

Any crisis sparking violence (seen Greece lately?) will be the opportunity to clamp down on 2nd Amendment rights for "the good of our country."

Each new crisis, budget or otherwise, will bring on even more "Change." And on it goes.

What to do? Hell if I know at this moment, but just pay attention to what could be coming and plan accordingly.

 

[huesmann]

Well I dont know about you gentlemen but I made it a point to buy as much ammo as possible right after hearing the news.

No, that was not a call to violence but merely a semi-thrifty measure as I foresee the prices of ammo going even higher now.

You foresee this because you think Obama will restrict sales of ammo?

 

[rmiddle]

I don't think any reversals will happen on the 2A issue. Whether through pressure we apply or otherwise, Zero has been almost a silent supporter of 2a. Also, Woolard (Woollard?) is still in process, and I have every expectation that our rights will be upheld.

Regarding gay marriage, I was extremely pleased to see that no religious institution would be forced to recognize it. So there is no degradation of traditional (religious) marriage.

Obama and the Democrats were afraid of waking the Giant known as 2A supports and it sounds like in your case it was successful. Now that he doesn't have to worry about reelection I can see the pen coming out and EO being signed that will effect our 2A rights. I can also see a great deal of damage being done if we get another anti in the SC.

As for Gay Marriage all religious institutions are going to be required to recognize them no mater what BS they are saying. Not required to preform the marriages but recognize them after the fact.

Thanks
Robert

 

[ReticulateLemur]

Obama and the Democrats were afraid of waking the Giant known as 2A supports and it sounds like in your case it was successful. Now that he doesn't have to worry about reelection I can see the pen coming out and EO being signed that will effect our 2A rights. I can also see a great deal of damage being done if we get another anti in the SC.

If he were to do something like this, he'd run the risk of shooting the Democrats in the foot regarding the next election. Depending on how much of a team player he is, this doesn't seem like a move he'd make.

Just my $.02.

 

[Boom Boom]

If he were to do something like this, he'd run the risk of shooting the Democrats in the foot regarding the next election. Depending on how much of a team player he is, this doesn't seem like a move he'd make.

Just my $.02.

I suspect that fellow Democrats are irrelevant to him. He's not a team player at all. Never has been. He's a lame duck with a huge pension for life and millions upon millions in the bank already. Politically, he's got nothing to lose by trying and everything to gain for his narcissistic ego.

 

[Mr H]

You foresee this because you think Obama will restrict sales of ammo?

Sorry to jump in line here, but I see that as well.

I don't think it will be restrictions (at least not initially), but rather the result of extreme demand... justified or not.

Restrictions may come if producers ramp up to fill public demand, though.

 

[EL1227]

If he were to do something like this, he'd run the risk of shooting the Democrats in the foot regarding the next election. Depending on how much of a team player he is, this doesn't seem like a move he'd make.

Just my $.02.

What next election are you talking about ?

I suspect that fellow Democrats are irrelevant to him. He's not a team player at all. Never has been. He's a lame duck with a huge pension for life and millions upon millions in the bank already. Politically, he's got nothing to lose by trying and everything to gain for his narcissistic ego.

If you doubt this, refer to my question above.

 

[BenL]

The realistic answer is no change anticipated.