Victory in MSI HQL suit

[Boxcab]

The judges are fishing for anything to hang their hat(s) on.

They also know that the SCOTUS is looking over their shoulder(s).


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[RFBfromDE]

That did not go well. It almost seemed like the lawyer for MSI wasn't prepared for the kinds of questions that would likely be asked.

He must have prepared for logical/topical questions and not farcicle ones.

 

[Squaregrouper]

He must have prepared for logical/topical questions and not farcicle ones.

This.

 

[motorcoachdoug]

Also it seemed to me that it was a very openly hostile court as well. It seems to me that 4CA is totally against 2A and will be openly hostile no matter what 2A case will be before it.

 

[Inigoes]

The good news is that is no status from the Supreme Court, next milestone is April 12th deadline for the AG to respond.

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I am wondering if the SCOTUS justices are waiting on a timely opinion before moving forward.

 

[scottyfz6]

The lawyer should have thrown out the the stripped lower argument. Why can we buy a stripped lower with a 77r and 7 days, but we need the extra paperwork and extra weeks and fees if its a handgun.

 

[trickg]

The lawyer should have thrown out the the stripped lower argument. Why can we buy a stripped lower with a 77r and 7 days, but we need the extra paperwork and extra weeks and fees if its a handgun.

That would have backfired - the end result of that would be that we'd need an HQL for stripped lowers too.

 

[K-Romulus]

The 4CA judges just do not get it ...

According to some anti-gunowner law professors, (paraphrasing their law review article, which I am going back to dig up again):

'Contrary to gun nut claims, our research of court decisions shows that the 4th Cir is actually one of the most pro-gunowner courts of appeals, with no evidence of 'massive resistance' to Heller . . .'

 

[RFBfromDE]

I'm not a legal guru, but if there is no historical analog and zero text supporting a licensing scheme, this is unconstitutional. These judges are ridiculous.

That is the only issue. The rest are distractions. The burden of proof resides with the State and they failed.

Next!

 

[smokey]

The ending seemed bad. He got run over.

And F that female judge that snapped her fingers at him saying “I’m over here”.
That is so condescending and unprofessional to snap your fingers at someone that way.


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[RFBfromDE]

According to some anti-gunowner law professors, (paraphrasing their law review article, which I am going back to dig up again):

'Contrary to gun nut claims, our research of court decisions shows that the 4th Cir is actually one of the most pro-gunowner courts of appeals, with no evidence of 'massive resistance' to Heller . . .'

"These are not the droids you are looking for"

 

[Biggfoot44]

According to some anti-gunowner law professors, (paraphrasing their law review article, which I am going back to dig up again):

'Contrary to gun nut claims, our research of court decisions shows that the 4th Cir is actually one of the most pro-gunowner courts of appeals, with no evidence of 'massive resistance' to Heller . . .'

Meanwhile , today's forecast is sun rising in the west , and cool pleasant breezes for the balmy beaches of hell .

 

[Bob A]

According to some anti-gunowner law professors, (paraphrasing their law review article, which I am going back to dig up again):

'Contrary to gun nut claims, our research of court decisions shows that the 4th Cir is actually one of the most pro-gunowner courts of appeals, with no evidence of 'massive resistance' to Heller . . .'

"Our research was undertaken without recourse to fact, based entirely upon the outcome we desired; as such, it successfully underscored our feelings on the matter. And don't forget, we are Constitutional Law professors!"

 

[Inigoes]

The news article seems middle of the road.

https://www.courthousenews.com/maryland-defends-handgun-law-at-fourth-circuit-en-banc-session/

 

[noddaz]

Any new news on the HQL front?
Asking for a friend.

 

[Apd09]

Any new news on the HQL front?
Asking for a friend.

They just had the oral arguments a week ago. Dont expect anything for a long time.


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[Doco Overboard]

How does purchasing or selling a handgun prior to any of the current licensing schemes play into the case?
A person used to be able to do that sort of thing before onerous restrictions were legislated into the mix, prior to what the states government is arguing now.

 

[BurkeM]

How does purchasing or selling a handgun prior to any of the current licensing schemes play into the case?
A person used to be able to do that sort of thing before onerous restrictions were legislated into the mix, prior to what the states government is arguing now.

I remember buying a pistol as easily as buying a pair of shoes (not in MD).

Other states- cash and carry with a CCW permit.