i used to buy these by the thousands and shoot the heck out of them.. little more accurate than ball ammo. also used to get the 173 match bullets. Talon ammo was pulling old 3006 ammo and you could buy it on the surplus market. gibrass.com - jeff Barlett sold tons of it. 10 years ago I saw it on gunbroker going for > $1 each. I put an auction on there for 1000 of them for 1200. Guy reached out to me and was testing armor plating... I had about 5000. he came to my house and paid me $6000 for the bullets. he said these were some of the best AP bullets ever made. i still have about 5000 of the 173 match bullets. hope you get what you want. I kept about 100 of the AP bullets. had to share that story... merry christmas - doug