Looks like the review noted above has been taken down. Wonder if they fouled up and posted it earlier than they were supposed to. The funny thing is the page with the "oops... there's a error with that link" message suggests the removed link under "recommended pages".
I suspect someone violated an NDA.
That's one sexy gunI believe you are correct. They put the review back up today. Suspect it was intended to coincide with the ship date for the first new guns. That happened today as well. Shipping now and a model page is live on Marlin's site:
https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_1895sbl/
That's one sexy gun
Showed that new Ruglin to my wife. She says, "Give me a nice oiled walnut stock and lose that ugly rail on the top. We can talk about the fiber optic front sight." That's my girl, she's a traditionalist. BTW, she nailed a twelve inch gong at 100 yards on her first shot with my 45-70 Sharps over the weekend. That was fun! Says it also instantly cured that tight spot in her upper back. At $2 a round these days, it's nice to get more than one good thing out of pulling that trigger.
I agree with your wife. In rifles I can go with laminated stocks and SS barrels, but not in lever actions. Something is not quite rigth about that.
I disagree. Buyers standing there with money in hand should be served. Demand has never been higher. You have customers that you don't have to convince to spend their money on your product. Produce it and it's sold. Otherwise, you make them wait too long, they'll find another product from a competitor instead.That's something. Not sure why they are going so slow. Could be they are still working out their process. Or converting/purchasing more machine tools to increase production. Or they just might not plan to increase production any and they are working on the other models. For Ruglin, it would suck to invest a ton in production tools to meet demand, only to find out that high demand only lasts 2 years to satisfy the backlog and then ongoing demand is half and Ruglin has invested all of that in tools and employees.
Same reason that the oil companies aren't busy drilling thousands of new wells. It has little to nothing to do with the Biden administration. The oil companies shareholders are telling them to hold fast. They've been burned twice HARD in the last decade or so. By the shale oil collapse from low oil prices and then with the 2020 demand collapse. They lost billions. Well prices are sky high, so profits are sky high. Shareholders want that money, not invest in new wells that MIGHT increase profits...but also prices might have fallen back to Earth by the time they've finished the new wells and now they spent billions and the well only is profitable at $100 a barrel oil and oil is down to $60. Opps!
Anyway, I don't know if "capitol discipline and anticipating long term demand" is what Ruglin is doing here. It would not surprise me though. Better to plan production for long term demand, than over build to meet existing demand and then have long term demand be significantly lower.
Not sure you understand economics/business that well. I’ve got no idea Ruger’s situation with Marlin’s machinery. But from what I’ve read, it’s mostly needing new machinery to make the guns. Or massive retooling if the old stuff. To service pent up demand might mean investing $40-60 million in machines and bring on a couple hundred employees to crank out just the .45-70 stuff. And then what do they do with all of the extra tooling if demand is 1/3rd it is now?I disagree. Buyers standing there with money in hand should be served. Demand has never been higher. You have customers that you don't have to convince to spend their money on your product. Produce it and it's sold. Otherwise, you make them wait too long, they'll find another product from a competitor instead.
I gave up on waiting for a Ruglin 357 as I don't think they'll get to the popular calibers/models that folks actually want for a long while, maybe years. Example the new 45-70 carbine is the 2nd model from this line?? How many 45-70 levers before that market is saturated??? Oh well. The Henry 357 X model I found is pretty awesome and will fill the place I was holding for a Marlin.
BTW, OPEC is just getting even with us for us moving to energy independence under Trump and not needing to buy their oil. Then Biden comes in and reduces domestic production and all of a sudden, we need foreign oil again. And now we're depleting our strategic reserve, great move (sarcasm). The high energy prices today are 100% Biden's doing. 100%. Build Back Better?? More like Make Everything Worse.
Not sure you understand economics/business that well. I’ve got no idea Ruger’s situation with Marlin’s machinery. But from what I’ve read, it’s mostly needing new machinery to make the guns. Or massive retooling if the old stuff. To service pent up demand might mean investing $40-60 million in machines and bring on a couple hundred employees to crank out just the .45-70 stuff. And then what do they do with all of the extra tooling if demand is 1/3rd it is now?
It generally doesn’t make sense to invest in CAPEX to satisfy short term demand. Same reason oil companies now aren’t and their inverters are insisting as much.
Current administration is somewhat at fault. But Trump and last Congress started the snowball with the first stimulus and here we are today. Build back better, most of that money hasn’t even been spent yet.
You give any president too much credit. They have limited influence on energy prices. Good or bad.
I do understand it. But this is not short term unlike the ammo shortages from years past. And It's not just ammo, it's also guns. When you have companies saying they won't be able to fill current backorders for years, it's more than short term. And, demand won't return to "normal" levels we used to know for a long time, if ever, unless manufacturing is increased.Not sure you understand economics/business that well. I’ve got no idea Ruger’s situation with Marlin’s machinery. But from what I’ve read, it’s mostly needing new machinery to make the guns. Or massive retooling if the old stuff. To service pent up demand might mean investing $40-60 million in machines and bring on a couple hundred employees to crank out just the .45-70 stuff. And then what do they do with all of the extra tooling if demand is 1/3rd it is now?
It generally doesn’t make sense to invest in CAPEX to satisfy short term demand. Same reason oil companies now aren’t and their inverters are insisting as much.
Current administration is somewhat at fault. But Trump and last Congress started the snowball with the first stimulus and here we are today. Build back better, most of that money hasn’t even been spent yet.
You give any president too much credit. They have limited influence on energy prices. Good or bad.
Yes, but the machine tools don't pay for themselves in a year or two, even with sky-high demand. Maybe it is just Ruger is realizing its really hard to make a quality lever gun. I don't know. I am just speculating as to the reason they do not appear to be ramping up production. Maybe it is just taking a ton of time to bring up all of the machine tools. But a lot of gun companies and ammo makers have gotten burned in the past by investing a ton in meeting demand of the day, only time find it slacken off in 2 or 3 years.I do understand it. But this is not short term unlike the ammo shortages from years past. And It's not just ammo, it's also guns. When you have companies saying they won't be able to fill current backorders for years, it's more than short term. And, demand won't return to "normal" levels we used to know for a long time, if ever, unless manufacturing is increased.
If we are to believe what everybody is saying, that the pandemic, the riots and all the other stuff brought millions of new gun owners into the fold then there will be more demand than was normal in the past just due to the increase in sheer numbers of shooters. More customers need more product. It behooves them to increase capacity. For the long term. I think I got a handle on things.
The current administration is 100% at fault. Trump did promote the 1st stimulus package and at the time it was passed, I believe it was needed to cover the loss of employment due to Corona-forced shutdowns. But the subsequent 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 40th stimulus packages (which were passed solely by Dems) did nothing except keep our workforce home when we needed them most and brought on an inflation which will damage the personal wealth of citizens and the national economy for years. Thank you Brandon! But by all means, go ahead and vote for him again.