AA County Plastic Bag Ban in 2024

[ted76]

The Giant Eagle in Frederick on 7th St was on Friday, giving out nice reusable woven cloth bags with handles for free at the check-outs. They have stamped on them "Reusable 125 Times"

 

[motorcoachdoug]

The Walmart along Rt198 and BW Parkway was caught with its doors down aka no bags and not ready at all. The warehous was supposed to send them brown paper bags but of course they did not and their are out. They have tiny brown bags and or blue woven ones but then they are overpacked as well. All in all its a major PIA and someone needs to bring it to the attention of the county and mabe have them re think about that ban.

 

[King Chicken]

Can someone explain to me why buying reusable grocery and produce bags is such a terrible thing?
Or, why single use plastic bags are so important?

 

[Worsley]

Can someone explain to me why buying reusable grocery and produce bags is such a terrible thing?
Or, why single use plastic bags are so important?

I am a terrible grocery planner, and as I do not keep reusable bags in my vehicle I ither am forced to use the crappy paper bags at Giants or buying the re-useable once of which I must have 30 by now. I am not a fan of plastic bags because of what they do to wildlife and our beautiful Maryland landscape.

Wholefoods Paper bags are awesome! They are sturdy, come with handles, and I use them for garbage bags when done. The other stores? Well they offer crappy paper bags that feel like they are made from newspaper, so now I just stopped shopping at those stores. Power of the purse.

 

[smokey]

Can someone explain to me why buying reusable grocery and produce bags is such a terrible thing?
Or, why single use plastic bags are so important?

Because it's not the job of government to micromanage basic decisions for us. This is also a huge inconvenience to the public and regressive tax that does nothing for the environment. The county council and Pittman are actively trying to cut down forests to build high density housing, but God forbid we use plastic bags... well unless you're in Annapolis. The city on the water gets a pass.

I've also heard the county's recycling program has shut down and they're essentially just tossing the collected recycling in the trash, but don't know how much validity that has.

 

[Worsley]

Because it's not the job of government to micromanage basic decisions for us. This is also a huge inconvenience to the public and regressive tax that does nothing for the environment. The county council and Pittman are actively trying to cut down forests to build high density housing, but God forbid we use plastic bags... well unless you're in Annapolis. The city on the water gets a pass.

I've also heard the county's recycling program has shut down and they're essentially just tossing the collected recycling in the trash, but don't know how much validity that has.

Now I understand!!!! After the the county council and Pittman cut down the forests they get paid to turn the trees into paper bags. Genius idea!

 

[Blaster229]

Why don't we ban ziploc bags?

 

[BurtonRW]

Can someone explain to me why buying reusable grocery and produce bags is such a terrible thing?
Or, why single use plastic bags are so important?

Similar questions include “Why does anyone need an AR-15 to hunt deer?”, “Why does anyone need to have more than 10 rounds in a magazine?”, or “Why does anyone need more than 2 guns?”

Are you a Fudd?

-Rob

 

[King Chicken]

I am a terrible grocery planner, and as I do not keep reusable bags in my vehicle

Why not keep the bags in your car? That's what I do.

Because it's not the job of government to micromanage basic decisions for us

Ty for your response. Most of my generation is fine using reusable bags from my experience. I share the sentiment of micromanaging.

However, when plastic waste becomes an issue of plastic ending up everywhere, all over...I think we can use paper or buy reusable instead of continuing to pollute. I don't see it as a micro issue. I understand why people don't like it, to a point.

Btw the bags are extremely hard to recycle. I haven't heard about recycling shutting down but the bags have always been a serious issue.

 

[King Chicken]

Similar questions include “Why does anyone need an AR-15 to hunt deer?”, “Why does anyone need to have more than 10 rounds in a magazine?”, or “Why does anyone need more than 2 guns?”

Are you a Fudd?

-Rob

 

[BurtonRW]

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To address your points about the bags becoming pollutants…

I use the bags for multiple purposes. They’re the most convenient solution for waste paper/bathroom trash bins, car trash bags, dirty shoe bags, and a host of other quick “grab-and-go” uses that pop up randomly from time to time.

We have always saved and stored these bags from grocery trips and used them - frequently multiple times - as described. They have always eventually ended up in the trash, either full of trash, as trash bags, or dirty/torn/etc. as trash themselves.

I cannot think of a single instance in which any of our bags have become pollutants. If that has ever happened it is because the GOVERNMENT has failed to contain the waste they are paid to collect and dispose of properly.

As for littering, I would whole heartedly support any increase to existing penalties or enforcement efforts to reduce that filth. Or the trash they leave strewn about.

-Rob

 

[smokey]

Why not keep the bags in your car? That's what I do.

Ty for your response. Most of my generation is fine using reusable bags from my experience. I share the sentiment of micromanaging.

However, when plastic waste becomes an issue of plastic ending up everywhere, all over...I think we can use paper or buy reusable instead of continuing to pollute. I don't see it as a micro issue. I understand why people don't like it, to a point.

Btw the bags are extremely hard to recycle. I haven't heard about recycling shutting down but the bags have always been a serious issue.

Basically all major grocery stores participate with trex in recycling bags. They had collection bins at the front of most stores. To make a difference, the government could have partnered with these businesses to give discount coupons for recycling bags.

They could have also used schools to address this. My school partnered with trek to collect bags. We kept track of how many bags were collected, rewarded classes that brought in the most, and at the end, trek broke off a donation check for our GT program. But tyrants like to tyrant.

 

[MaxVO2]

As for littering, I would whole heartedly support any increase to existing penalties or enforcement efforts to reduce that filth. Or the trash they leave strewn about.

-Rob

****Most of the people seemingly doing the littering, as evidenced by the look of the neighborhoods they live in, don't have two nickels or a pot to piss in. They don't care, and just throw their trash out on the street, out of their car windows, after eating fast food, and they complain when their OWN mess is not being cleaned up by others.

I've volunteered on multiple occasions with others in litter cleanup drives and it is unbelievable to me how people can live like this and seemingly continue to do the same thing over and over again. The argument goes "Nobody is teaching them proper behavior" - ******** - they see *cleaner* neighborhoods, in nicer locations and see the people in those neighborhoods not just throwing their garbage out on the street and living in filth. Slobs, and generally all around losers in life because they lack discipline and continue to make really really bad decisions in their lives and complaining that the best things in life are not just merely given to them for just existing, and other people have more than they do... Duh - they *earned* it.

It doesn't cost money to clean up your living area - some time, some effort - but the poverty thing is an excuse to essentially excuse poor behavior and just let it slide IMO. If some people weren't slobs and just chucking their bags and other stuff out on the street - pretty sure we wouldn't have these bag bans in place. So most everyone now has to suffer because a small segment of the population just can't be bothered to live in a civilized manner and they just throw litter/trash out on the streets and elsewhere and just don't care to change. People like that suck.

 

[Growler215]

Someone posted who voted for this but I can't find it. Please re-post so we can can ridicule them publicly.

Here ya go:

Can someone explain to me why buying reusable grocery and produce bags is such a terrible thing?
Or, why single use plastic bags are so important?

You wouldn't think MDS would attract statists.

 

[smokey]

****Most of the people seemingly doing the littering, as evidenced by the look of the neighborhoods they live in, don't have two nickels or a pot to piss in. They don't care, and just throw their trash out on the street, out of their car windows, after eating fast food, and they complain when their OWN mess is not being cleaned up by others.

I've volunteered on multiple occasions with others in litter cleanup drives and it is unbelievable to me how people can live like this and seemingly continue to do the same thing over and over again. The argument goes "Nobody is teaching them proper behavior" - ******** - they see *cleaner* neighborhoods, in nicer locations and see the people in those neighborhoods not just throwing their garbage out on the street and living in filth. Slobs, and generally all around losers in life because they lack discipline and continue to make really really bad decisions in their lives and complaining that the best things in life are not just merely given to them for just existing, and other people have more than they do... Duh - they *earned* it.

It doesn't cost money to clean up your living area - some time, some effort - but the poverty thing is an excuse to essentially excuse poor behavior and just let it slide IMO. If some people weren't slobs and just chucking their bags and other stuff out on the street - pretty sure we wouldn't have these bag bans in place. So most everyone now has to suffer because a small segment of the population just can't be bothered to live in a civilized manner and they just throw litter/trash out on the streets and elsewhere and just don't care to change. People like that suck.

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Yup. I've grabbed trash bags and cleaned the side of some roads before. It is mind-blowing how much trash can be collected on just some random 100 yard stretch of side county road. I support tossing people that litter in stocks and having the public launch rotten veggies at them.

 

[jc1240]

Can someone explain to me why buying reusable grocery and produce bags is such a terrible thing?
Or, why single use plastic bags are so important?

"single use" bags are anything but single use. They are perfect for bathroom trash. Reusing them that way cuts down on the need to manufacture, transport, etc purpose-made bathroom liners.

The "problem" is the same as with guns, it's not the product itself but what people do with them.

I've also heard the county's recycling program has shut down and they're essentially just tossing the collected recycling in the trash, but don't know how much validity that has.

Recycling is mostly BS. Paper and metals are the only things reliably recycled but even then there are exceptions. Examples cardboard coated with wax (fruit boxes) or contaminated with grease/oil (pizza boxes) cannot be recycled.

Plastics are a joke. Despite the recycle logos, the tech doesn't exist for most. Carroll County takes on a few specific types and their little motto concerning recycling is "if in doubt, throw it out."

This is from Canada, but I don't think the US is any better.

 

[smokey]

...not sure the bag ban is having the desired impact... lolz

 

[rseymorejr]

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...not sure the bag ban is having the desired impact... lolz

 

[rseymorejr]

My neighbor hood is pretty clean. Most people here take a little pride in themselves and where they live. Once in a while there's some trash laying in the street. When I see it I pick it up and throw it in the trash can. Doesn't even need to be in front of my house, it takes 5 seconds no big deal. About a month ago I noticed a bunch of fast food trash on the side of the road that leads to our neighborhhod. Not in front of anyone's house, woods on one side and a hill and the back of houses on the other. I got home and parked in front of my house, got a bag and walked around the corner and picked it all up, didn't take long. It's not that hard to pick up the trash. Strange that in neighborhoods where ablebodied people hang on the corners and stoops all day, the streets look like dumps.

 

[Worsley]

Why not keep the bags in your car? That's what I do.

I’m a terrible grocery planner.