Bambi whacking thread 2020-2021

JamesDong · Dec 29, 2020

akalma said:
Actually the main idea behind fmj and military calibers it to make an injury, not a kill. As it causes more troubles to an enemy. While in hunting the main goal is retrieve the meat (or trophy).

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I've heard that nonsense about that's why they went to 22 cal. They also said it tumbles, I liken that theory more, infinitely more damage tumbling or shooting off in another direction inside a body. Not too many survived a 30 cal to vitals. A fmj will penetrate objects like a 12 in tree as well, nice to know in places like the Ardennes or on a water cooled Merlin or Daimler.
FMJ rifle bullets give far more reliable feed on the feed ramp, when something is humming at 600 rounds per minute you don't want a mangled soft point.

outrider58 · Dec 29, 2020

JamesDong said:
I've head that nonsense about that's why they went to 22 cal. They also said it tumbles, I liken that theory more, infinitely more damage tumbling or shooting off in another direction inside a body. Not too many survived a 30 cal to vitals. A fmj will penetrate objects like a 12 in tree as well, nice to know in places like the Ardennes or on a water cooled Merlin or Daimler.
FMJ rifle bullets give far more reliable feed on the feed ramp, when something is humming at 600 rounds per minute you don't want a mangled soft point.

The theory is;kill someone on the battlefield and he's dead. Wound someone on the battlefield and you take him out and the ones who care for him.

JamesDong · Dec 29, 2020

outrider58 said:
The theory is;kill someone on the battlefield and he's dead. Wound someone on the battlefield and you take him out and the ones who care for him.

Sounds good in theory but that's often not the case. A 30 cal fmj was designed to kill, not maim.

outrider58 · Dec 29, 2020

JamesDong said:
Sounds good in theory but that's often not the case. A 30 cal fmj was designed to kill, not maim.

It's the bullet design more than the caliber, but I get your point.

JamesDong · Dec 29, 2020

outrider58 said:
It's the bullet design more than the caliber, but I get your point.

I used 30 cal as an example since most my shit is 30, back in 65 or 66 the common word was the 5.56 tumbled and mangled, they liked the theory of an arm entrance and a chest exit. THAT is hardly a wound but a kill.

Bboarder · Dec 29, 2020

#8 shuffled off this mortal coil today

Bboarder · Dec 31, 2020

In the rain

outrider58 · Dec 31, 2020

FIFY. Nice F'ing deer!

JamesDong · Dec 31, 2020

Bboarder said:
In the rain

PLUS........... it defies gravity!

BigCountry14 · Dec 31, 2020

Bboarder said:
In the rain

Nice one!!!

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steves1911 · Dec 31, 2020

Bboarder said:
In the rain

Very nice congrats

Brickman301 · Jan 2, 2021

I was able to take a big doe this evening with my muzzleloader. The neat thing was i took it with a bullet that I casted.

I was using a 50 cal. 320 grain Lee REAL bullet, being pushed by 60 grains of 3F powder. She was about 30 yards away when I shot. I destroyed the heart, and she ran about 20 yards. The bullet went all the way though, so I couldn’t recover it. Kinda wished it didn’t, as I wanted to see how well it expanded.
Anyways, more meat for the freezer!

outrider58 · Jan 2, 2021

Brickman301 said:
I was able to take a big doe this evening with my muzzleloader. The neat thing was i took it with a bullet that I casted.

I was using a 50 cal. 320 grain Lee REAL bullet, being pushed by 60 grains of 3F powder. She was about 30 yards away when I shot. I destroyed the heart, and she ran about 20 yards. The bullet went all the way though, so I couldn’t recover it. Kinda wished it didn’t, as I wanted to see how well it expanded.
Anyways, more meat for the freezer!

Congrats!

Brickman301 · Jan 2, 2021

outrider58 said:
Congrats!

Thanks!

engineerbrian · Jan 2, 2021

I shot a huge doe this morning. Neck shot, hit the jugular and the deer ran about 30 yards spraying blood like crazy. I could actually see the blood trail from up in my stand.

Like Brickman I also used a hand casted Lee REAL slug. Mine are 250 grain slugs with 100 grains of powder behind it.

Brickman301 · Jan 2, 2021

engineerbrian said:
I shot a huge doe this morning. Neck shot, hit the jugular and the deer ran about 30 yards spraying blood like crazy. I could actually see the blood trail from up in my stand.

Like Brickman I also used a hand casted Lee REAL slug. Mine are 250 grain slugs with 100 grains of powder behind it.

Awesome! Would this bullet happen to be cast from the lead you purchased from me and my brother?

engineerbrian · Jan 2, 2021

Brickman301 said:
Awesome! Would this bullet happen to be cast from the lead you purchased from me and my brother?

No this one was cast by Deep Creek Rock, a member here that doesnt post anymore. I’m down to my last few bullets from him so the lead I bought from you will be next years loads. :thumbsup:

Brickman301 · Jan 2, 2021

engineerbrian said:
No this one was cast by Deep Creek Rock, a member here that doesnt post anymore. I’m down to my last few bullets from him so the lead I bought from you will be next years loads.

Gotcha. I’m impressed that you can used that much powder with those bullets. When I tried loads that heavy, accuracy fell off big time. I’d like to shoot using more powder, for a little more power. The 60 grain load definitely did the job though.

engineerbrian · Jan 2, 2021

Brickman301 said:
Gotcha. I’m impressed that you can used that much powder with those bullets. When I tried loads that heavy, accuracy fell off big time. I’d like to shoot using more powder, for a little more power. The 60 grain load definitely did the job though.

Yeah i randomly picked 100grains as a starting point when i sighted it in and it worked well. I need to fine tune the accuracy though so who knows it may drop some.

Archeryrob · Jan 3, 2021

Brickman, my daughter used one of our lee REALs in 240 grain over a felt wad on 80 grains 777 and the bullet stopped inside. I am assuming the soft lead mushrooms out fast. She pulled the shot and hit more liver than lungs, so I am assuming it caused more friction. I too would liked to have recovered the bullet but had the flu and she wouldn't dig for it.

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