current ATF wait time

DaemonAssassin · Dec 25, 2020

ar15dave said:
Anyone know when eForm-4 will be available again? I know it was down to change it to the new format.

fbi_surveillance_van said:
ATF has been stalling on the new eForm4 for at least a year. Based on their recent actions, don’t expect it to be a priority. I hope I’m wrong but I would bet it’s at least a year off, if not more.

The problem was that when they did the eForm 4, there were so many submissions that is crashed every one of their servers within the first week, IIRC. Given that NFA branch had that occur, they removed the eForm 4 indefinitely, until their systems were capable of handling that kind of demand. Hence the reason why the eForms website does not have all 10 forms on it.

was42 · Dec 27, 2020

Form 4 Approved

Used Maryland Elite Firearms in Finksburg. Form 4 signed and sent on July 28th. Received a call on Christmas Eve that my stamp arrived (ATF approved on 12/4 and diddled around for 3 weeks). Picked up my Lunar 9mm can that afternoon and stuck it under the Christmas tree!

Mondial · Dec 27, 2020

Merry Christmas!!

rockstarr · Dec 27, 2020

was42 said:
Used Maryland Elite Firearms in Finksburg. Form 4 signed and sent on July 28th. Received a call on Christmas Eve that my stamp arrived (ATF approved on 12/4 and diddled around for 3 weeks). Picked up my Lunar 9mm can that afternoon and stuck it under the Christmas tree!

And here I am, sent form 4 the same day or so, and my paperwork haven’t even been assigned to an examiner.

Excuse me while I go **** myself.

was42 · Dec 27, 2020

Christmas can

Maryland Elite Firearms (Baltimore's Best Pawn) was recommended to me because they use an electronic kiosk system to do the fingerprints and forms.

was42 · Dec 27, 2020

My Christmas can

rockstarr said:
And here I am, sent form 4 the same day or so, and my paperwork haven’t even been assigned to an examiner.

Excuse me while I go **** myself.

Maryland Elite Firearms (Baltimore's Best Pawn) was recommended to me because they use an electronic kiosk system to do the fingerprints and forms that seemed to streamline the process...which couldn't start till they had the actual can in hand for the serial #. Nevertheless, the whole thing went into gear on July 28th....and the folks in Martinsburg attached the stamp, signed off and dated it all December 4th. A previous can, using only paper at another dealer, started in August 2018 and took till July 2019, eleven months. I'm not unhappy with this turnaround time in comparison. I didn't do a trust.

kingfish · Jan 1, 2021

was42 said:
Maryland Elite Firearms (Baltimore's Best Pawn) was recommended to me because they use an electronic kiosk system to do the fingerprints and forms that seemed to streamline the process...which couldn't start till they had the actual can in hand for the serial #. Nevertheless, the whole thing went into gear on July 28th....and the folks in Martinsburg attached the stamp, signed off and dated it all December 4th. A previous can, using only paper at another dealer, started in August 2018 and took till July 2019, eleven months. I'm not unhappy with this turnaround time in comparison. I didn't do a trust.

I filled the forms from the same place, but about a month after you. How’d you find out when someone was assigned to your application? This is my first and all I know is that I wait until Baltimore’s best pawn gives me a call. Is there any way to check status?

was42 · Jan 2, 2021

ATF wait time

kingfish said:
I filled the forms from the same place, but about a month after you. How’d you find out when someone was assigned to your application? This is my first and all I know is that I wait until Baltimore’s best pawn gives me a call. Is there any way to check status?

I never dug around on the ATF web site or called. My 1st can from a shop on Falls Road, Black Rock, took 11 months....no rhyme or reason. It looks like ATF is running 5 months from completed APP to actual stamp. You could check with Dan at Elite to get his impression. Good luck!

rockstarr · Jan 2, 2021

kingfish said:
I filled the forms from the same place, but about a month after you. How’d you find out when someone was assigned to your application? This is my first and all I know is that I wait until Baltimore’s best pawn gives me a call. Is there any way to check status?

304-616-4500. Follow the prompts to check form 4 status.

Make sure you have your serial # for the suppressor handy.

viiper · Jan 2, 2021

Did a Form 4 12/29/2020. Just did another Form 4 today.

Might do a few Form 1's here soon as well.

Will update when I get more info. Like others here, trying to make sure I get my stuffs!

Bertfish · Jan 3, 2021

Help me out some guys, please.

I've never dabbled in NFA stuff. I want to Form 1 a lower which I already have to build a .22LR SBR.

I read the NFA FAQ thread which has been around forever and I'm still unclear of the order of operations. If I do the eForm1 do I still have to take paperwork to MSP to get approved before ATF will approve the application?

If someone has time to type out the procedure I'd be happier than a pig in a wallow.

Oswaldo87 · Jan 4, 2021

As long as you have your paperwork filled out correct. Submit a copy to your CLEO which doesn’t need approval. It is just required that they get a copy. All you got to do then is wait.
It used to require approval before the last big change.

Bertfish · Jan 5, 2021

Oswaldo87 said:
As long as you have your paperwork filled out correct. Submit a copy to your CLEO which doesn’t need approval. It is just required that they get a copy. All you got to do then is wait.
It used to require approval before the last big change.

Ok so you're just sending a copy of the form 1 to MSP. Just like the 03FFL application.

Oswaldo87 · Jan 6, 2021

Bertfish said:
Ok so you're just sending a copy of the form 1 to MSP. Just like the 03FFL application.

If I remember right you can print off the whole packet or at least the section that is labeled for the CLEO. It’s all marked out well. Yea just like an 03. Send it to whoever you consider to be the chief Leo in your area.

Just curious, why do you choose MSP over your local sheriff?

Racer Doug14 · Jan 6, 2021

I guess a Biden ATF will never approve anything?

Bertfish · Jan 8, 2021

Oswaldo87 said:
If I remember right you can print off the whole packet or at least the section that is labeled for the CLEO. It’s all marked out well. Yea just like an 03. Send it to whoever you consider to be the chief Leo in your area.

Just curious, why do you choose MSP over your local sheriff?

I thought all class 3 approvals went through MSP. Maybe that was how it used to be when it was a sign off rather than a notification.

Oswaldo87 · Jan 8, 2021

Bertfish said:
I thought all class 3 approvals went through MSP. Maybe that was how it used to be when it was a sign off rather than a notification.

Gotcha. It wouldn’t surprise me in this state. Back in Louisiana, my Parish sheriff wouldn’t sign off on submissions. Using a trust bypassed that back in the day. Luckily it’s just a formality now. Not best if those CLEOs are storing that information for later but whatever.... boat accident.

DaemonAssassin · Jan 8, 2021

Bertfish said:
I thought all class 3 approvals went through MSP. Maybe that was how it used to be when it was a sign off rather than a notification.

If you were filing as a individual before Rule 41F went into effect, you had to get CLEO sign off. If you were using a trust before Rule 41F, you did not need CLEO sign off. \

Rule 41F did away with CLEO sign off, and made it only notification, whether you use a trust or file as a individual.

Bertfish · Jan 8, 2021

DaemonAssassin said:
If you were filing as a individual before Rule 41F went into effect, you had to get CLEO sign off. If you were using a trust before Rule 41F, you did not need CLEO sign off. \

Rule 41F did away with CLEO sign off, and made it only notification, whether you use a trust or file as a individual.

I know you aren't among us MD residents anymore but who should I send the notification to? MSP or the baltimore county police chief?

DaemonAssassin · Jan 8, 2021

Bertfish said:
I know you aren't among us MD residents anymore but who should I send the notification to? MSP or the baltimore county police chief?

Baltimore County Police Chief.

Due to very specific circumstances, after speaking with many people in NFA branch and getting the same answer from each of them, I can file Form 1's in MD or in WV with my trust. All Form 4's must be done in WV for me.

If I'm filing a Form 1 in MD, it goes to FredCo Sheriff. If I'm doing the Form 1 in WV it goes to the County Sheriff in WV.

If I'm filing a Form 4, it goes to my County Sheriff in WV.

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