kalister1
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Don't forget, this is the Minimum required by law. You can Rifle hunt with a
.223 in Maryland, but I don't know anybody that does.
.223 in Maryland, but I don't know anybody that does.
My hunting load is 40 grains of 777 behind a 200 gn Lee conical bullet in my 1860 Pietta. I have a high front sight and have it zero'd for 35 yards.
This load works well on deer but I wouldn't recommend making it a constant diet.
, but, I just can't get past the low 40 grain power weight.
If you go back and read post #4 you will notice that the actual regulation is 60 grains. It has always been 60 grains minimum. I never noticed the false information until Franklin posted the "40 grains" and I was thinking where did you come up with that ? post #4 explains the issue. The fact is that the minimum is 60 grains. It has always been 60 grains.
I haven't chronographed the load yet but, from the feel of it, it is pretty stout. Remember, this is 777 not BP and the barrel length is 8 inches.
Yup, The Walker will do it. I have an Uberti repro, it is a lot of fun to shoot, being the pistol weighs 4.5lbs and is just a bit less powerful than a 357mag(148gr .454 ball around 1200fps) recoil is very mild. It is loud, and throws a TON of smoke. They were "horse pistols", designed for cavalry in a role similar to a carbine, the sights were set for 100 yards, so they shoot high, when shooting near full power the loading arm can drop being there is only a little spring clip holding it up, and the wedge can get crushed. I shoot blanks(60gr under wad in 1 chamber only) at new years or July 4th with it, and a lot of round balls over a wad and 50gr of FFFg at the range, but have had really good luck with .452 200gr conicals over 40gr.
Like I said, I have never owned, or had any interest in a blackpowder revolver, but I have looked at them and almost bought, a few times, but, that larger pistol has to be fun to shoot. I'm just not in to general target shooting and I guess that has a lot to do with my questions and reasons why I have never bought one. I'm basically of the mind-set that if I'm not going to hunt with it, it really doesn't serve me any purpose. I just can't grasp the concept of a gun that only shoots 40 grains of powder would be of any value for hunting a Deer. I don't hunt with any "high-powered" rifles and I consider a .50 cal Muzzleloader nothing better than a 12 or 20 gauge slug gun, but, a pistol at 40 grains of powder versus a pistol at 100 grains of powder is almost like comparing a BB gun to a 20 gauge slug to me. I just do not understand the 40 grain allowance for Deer hunting.
My hunting load is 40 grains of 777 behind a 200 gn Lee conical bullet in my 1860 Pietta. I have a high front sight and have it zero'd for 35 yards.
This load works well on deer but I wouldn't recommend making it a constant diet.
There's no understanding the regs on the fpe regulations. It's legacy rules crossed with updates by people who don't understand the numbers.
My FIL has argued that case with DNR rangers and admins for years without satisfactory answers aside from coming to understand that they don't understand.
This is what I've been considering all year. Asked a hunting instructor about it and he said only maybe 2 people have ever asked about this and he had no idea on effectiveness.
That's what concerned me. When using my .32 cal muzzleloader with30 grains of powder for Squirrel hunting. I would never consider shooting a Deer with only 40 grains. 30 grains and 40 grains are not much different when you pull the trigger. 40 grains of powder and a 200 grain bullet you'd have to be right on that Deer. I can see this in a Deer stand hunting or ground blind situation, but, man that Deer would have to be 100% broadside and right on me before I ever pulled the trigger. I don't think I could even do it.
People say that about alot of guns but at the same time, you wouldnt want to stand in front of it to test it out would you? Native americans killed deer with bows and arrows made from sticks and stone with alot less kinetic energy than a lead ball, buffalo even!
buy me one to try out and i will pay you back for it.We can agree that even the simplest weapons will work but the issue is if it will be a quick kill.
Short of always making a brain shot there will be variability.
buy me one to try out and i will pay you back for it.