22lr SBR denied

[awptickes]

It's a Form 1 for a 22lr SBR, barrel length 6.75, OAL 24.01:

MD STATE LAW, ASSAULT WEAPON - PROHIBITED, REFUND IN PROCESS... TEC

Going to call him in a few minutes... Hopefully they're in the office today.

 

[awptickes]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand they're closed today.

 

[PJDiesel]

Unreal.

They waste more time and money in that office screwing shit up.

 

[awptickes]

I even attached this advisory to the Form 1:
https://www.mdsp.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=oaD6AUPKi0U%3d&tabid=961&mid=2923

 

[bobthefisher]

Who was the examiner?!?!?!

 

[awptickes]

Who was the examiner?!?!?!

Ted

 

[bobthefisher]

Ted

Got it, I'm going to give him another call tomorrow. My last <29" rimfire went through a couple weeks ago. However I have another in the pipe.

We'll get this thing unfcked.

 

[awptickes]

Yeah, they're closed today.

I hope I can get this fixed without having to jump through any crazy hoops.

 

[Doctor_M]

If it is a rim fire, how is it an assault weapon? Unless it is a Jager (I think that is the only named rimfire on the list).

 

[Captnstabn]

make sure to update the thread when you find something out. I want to sbr my 15-22, but the atf already owes me $200 from a denial a month ago. I don't need them owing me $400 for another denial.

 

[clandestine]

Was it a dedicated .22 AR style lower like a 15-22 or was it just a standard STANAG AR lower with a .22 upper? There's may be some reasoning if its the latter because a non dedicated can be switched to a center fire upper without legal notification as long as its switched back to .22.

 

[1time]

Make the form 1 for 29". After its approved you can change it to anything that is lawful, which is any length you want.

 

[awptickes]

Was it a dedicated .22 AR style lower like a 15-22 or was it just a standard STANAG AR lower with a .22 upper? There's may be some reasoning if its the latter because a non dedicated can be switched to a center fire upper without legal notification as long as its switched back to .22.

It's a STANAG AR lower.

I've considered building an upper for it that would allow it to be longer than 29" just to get it approved, but that's absolute nonsense, because I shouldn't have to spend more money to make it into a longer configuration to meet a requirement that doesn't apply to rimfire.

 

[Pinecone]

This why, with a STANAG lower, you have a legal SBR, that is not only a .22. It can be a center fire by changing the upper.

 

[clandestine]

It's a STANAG AR lower.

I've considered building an upper for it that would allow it to be longer than 29" just to get it approved, but that's absolute nonsense, because I shouldn't have to spend more money to make it into a longer configuration to meet a requirement that doesn't apply to rimfire.

I think that's the reasoning for the denial. I don't think their decision will change.

Either make the OAL 29"+ or use a dedicated .22 like a 15-22 that won't accept STANAG mags.

I sincerely hope I am wrong.

 

[awptickes]

I'm going to find out... Because right now they've disapproved something that is legal.

 

[clandestine]

I'm going to find out... Because right now they've disapproved something that is legal.

I think that its not as clear cut as you want it to be. IMO its no different than calling a STANAG AR Lower with a non permanent 9mm mag block installed as "not regulated".

Your lower is a standard AR lower, its not a .22.

I disagree with all of these insane laws but I can look at them in an objective manner even if I don't agree.

I wish you luck. I sincerely think you need to take a different approach.

 

[awptickes]

I do see it objectively, they're only approving the permanent configuration listed on the Form 1.

I guess I need to find a 22lr AR barrel that's shorter than 16" and submit it like that. Problem is that I don't have one. I was hoping that they'd approve it, because what I asked for permission to make was a 22lr AR, which is exempted in the FSA2013.

Here's to hoping the refund is quick.

 

[rsj1231]

I think that its not as clear cut as you want it to be. IMO its no different than calling a STANAG AR Lower with a non permanent 9mm mag block installed as "not regulated".

Your lower is a standard AR lower, its not a .22.

I disagree with all of these insane laws but I can look at them in an objective manner even if I don't agree.

I wish you luck. I sincerely think you need to take a different approach.

I'm with Clandestine on this one, and is one of the reasons I SBR'd my 15-22 versus a regular AR15 lower that could still accept centerfire uppers.

Here's a picture without the Sparrow on.

 

[Captnstabn]

I'm with Clandestine on this one, and is one of the reasons I SBR'd my 15-22 versus a regular AR15 lower that could still accept centerfire uppers.

Here's a picture without the Sparrow on.

When did you do this? prior to 10/13 or recently?