25 million for gun violence propaganda

[danb]

As if Bloomberg's billions are not enough.


House-Senate Budget Deal Funds $25 Million in ‘Gun Violence’ Research For First Time in Decades

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/house-senate-deal-funds-25-million-in-gun-violence-research/

 

[TheOriginalMexicanBob]

The government sure does love wasting taxpayer money.

 

[buellsfurn]

The government sure does love wasting taxpayer money.

wasting stealing potato patato didn't Obummer do this and sign it on national TV

 

[davsco]

wtf. put, and keep, violent criminals in jail. a lot less crime will occur.

 

[Glaron]

I thought there was a CDC study that showed guns were used 3.5x more for defense. So, they hid it.

 

[Seagrave1963]

Maybe Commissioner Harrison will get the money to "find" the root cause. At least he's looking at more than "the gun" being the problem - he won't last long in the Dem world.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/city-...rison-we-need-to-look-at-root-causes-of-crime

 

[BlueHeeler]

The bulk of gun violence is highly concentrated in very small segments of American geography. Specifically St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans…

The overwhelming majority of gun violence is committed with handguns.

Firearms used in crimes are mostly acquired through straw purchases or black-market sales to a prohibited person. Straw purchases are rarely prosecuted.

The overwhelming number of perpetrators have previous gun and/or violent offences. Removing these people reduces gun crime. Banning "assault weapons" does not reduce crime.

Suicide is not gun violence. It is a mental health issue that should be addressed. Defensive shootings are not gun violence either. That is protecting ones life.

The data is already out there. I am not sure why they need to spend 25 million. Anyone can google the current existing DOJ data.

 

[K31]

Yeah, "gun violence". When Guns Go Bad! Now on Fox.

Here's your "gun violence": https://www.assaultweaponwatch.com/

Where's my $25M?

 

[gizzard]

they already know that lawfully owned firearms, locked away by the law-abiding citizens, is the cause of all gun crime. Almost forgot, racism and heterosexuality are causes too.

 

[Steel Hunter]

Is it bad that I don't really care about the government wasting $25 million since over a billion is wasted in fraudulent contracts every year? This is just standard operating procedure for the gun grabbers. Next week we will find out the person running the study is the brother in law of some random nobody house of reps person.

 

[BlueHeeler]

Is it bad that I don't really care about the government wasting $25 million since over a billion is wasted in fraudulent contracts every year? This is just standard operating procedure for the gun grabbers. Next week we will find out the person running the study is the brother in law of some random nobody house of reps person.

That is not bad, it is reality of public spending. I also accept that anything the government runs is torching of public money.

I care when the result of the policy strips honest law abiding people of their rights.

 

[roadking]

The bulk of gun violence is highly concentrated in very small segments of American geography. Specifically St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans…

This is true. And even within those municipalities the violence is highly concentrated in small geographic areas. None of those cities are overall horrible places. But they do have terribly dangerous sections, and it’s unfortunate for those that don’t have the means to move out of those areas, that they can’t otherwise protect themselves.


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[BlueHeeler]

This is true. And even within those municipalities the violence is highly concentrated in small geographic areas. None of those cities are overall horrible places. But they do have terribly dangerous sections, and it’s unfortunate for those that don’t have the means to move out of those areas, that they can’t otherwise protect themselves.

Agree 100%. I live in the hood.

The gun laws generally disadvantage honest people like my awesome neighbors that cannot afford $1000 worth of training, fingerprints, registration, gun purchase...

 

[K31]

I'd be okay with $25M if there were a violent gun out there. Haven't seen one. Guns aren't autonomously violent. This is a perpetuation of the anti's "It's the gun" one-dimensional mentality. It ignores the real problem and tries to make the innocent victims and subjects.

Thanks Stupid Party for going along with this.

 

[Kicken Wing]

As if Bloomberg's billions are not enough.


House-Senate Budget Deal Funds $25 Million in ‘Gun Violence’ Research For First Time in Decades

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/house-senate-deal-funds-25-million-in-gun-violence-research/

And we all know how that gun research is going to be slanted. Against us despite the facts.

 

[Uncle Duke]

The study should strongly suggest that people who shoot other people, and who otherwise can't play well with others in civil society, should be locked up. It won't say that, as we all know that violent thugs are misunderstood, and should be hugged.

25 million dollars later, it'll say that guns are bad m'kay, and that we as gun owners are the problem.

There. No charge.

 

[Doctor_M]

This round of "research" will all be focused on how important "safe storage" is. Be prepared for mandates for locks, safes, and maybe even disassembled storage. Who knows what these yahoos will come up with to protect us from ourselves.

 

[Kicken Wing]

This round of "research" will all be focused on how important "safe storage" is. Be prepared for mandates for locks, safes, and maybe even disassembled storage. Who knows what these yahoos will come up with to protect us from ourselves.

I can easily see that as a talking point from the anti's. What good is a weapon if you cannot quickly and easily access it for use against a threat?

 

[rascal]

As if Bloomberg's billions are not enough.


House-Senate Budget Deal Funds $25 Million in ‘Gun Violence’ Research For First Time in Decades

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/house-senate-deal-funds-25-million-in-gun-violence-research/

Bloomberg put $300 million into Johns Hopkins alone, with a commensurate massive tax deduction, and with a good portion of that going to Hopkins new gun violence research arm.

These "studies" are not just about influencing public opinion, or buttressing gun control legislation, they are actually widely cited in federal court arguments and decisions. Part of the long game by gun control/ban advocates.

I believe Lott or Kleck had collected quotes from three of the four CDC heads preceding the 1990's limits on CDC anti- second amendment advocacy research, with those three CDC heads directly stating the purpose of their funding of research was to limit exercise of the second amendment.

The research the CDC funded routinely used the most specious logic, and methodology that would get it laughed out of any other epidemiology work. Such as "a gun in the home increases risk" studies that failed to control gun owning homes of active criminals vs the rest of gun owning households. This methodology -- not separating risk groups -- can be used to "prove" beyond any doubt that medical care should be avoided because people going to the emergency room are more likely to die than the general population. As are people visiting a medical specialist etc.


Another issue is the open question of what would be the reaction of the ACLU for research on the public health harm of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments. Compared to virtually all developed democracies it is more difficult in the Us to obtain a warrant, or include items found outside the warrant, or search a person in public, or for that matter remand a person who maybe mentally ill for assessment and mandatory treatment. How about public funding of medical research on added risk/harm of the fact that we ban double jeopardy?

 

[rascal]

That is not bad, it is reality of public spending. I also accept that anything the government runs is torching of public money.

I care when the result of the policy strips honest law abiding people of their rights.

100% agree. And as we have seen from CDC leadership statements, it isn't even a side effect, it is the design and purpose of this research -- to limit rights.