372 days for Form 4 approval

[AssMan]

Who's filing the lawsuit? 372 days is not compatible with "shall not be infringed."

 

[AlBeight]

153 days and counting on eform 4, individual thru SilencerShop. ATF site says 180, so I’m ecstatic to be so comfortably within that window

 

[AssMan]

What's an infringement? 3 days, 7 days, 10 days, 1 month? I'd say anything over 30 days is a significant infringement. Today's wait times are absolutely an infringement. Why hasn't this been challenged?

 

[MJD438]

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[Sundazes]

Is this your first? ATF makes their own rules. I have had then take anywhere from 8 to 14 months. I did an efile this year. It took 240 days.
Unfortunately you have to get used to it.

 

[AssMan]

Is this your first? ATF makes their own rules. I have had then take anywhere from 8 to 14 months. I did an efile this year. It took 240 days.
Unfortunately you have to get used to it.

No, I already have several NFA items and am aware that this isn't a new thing. This is just the current wait time per silencer shop. I'm not convinced that we need to accept it.

Where's the limit? If the government takes 10 years to approve the transfer of an NFA item is that constitutional? A quick google search didn't return anything to suggest that this has been challenged, but I haven't really researched it. IIRC, the 10-day "cooling off" law was struck down. It just seems like such an obvious infringement that affects hundreds of thousands of Americans.

 

[swinokur]

File a lawsuit


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[AssMan]

I would gladly be a plaintiff and contribute towards fees. I'm sure we'd have plenty of plaintiffs.

 

[Sundazes]

The real question would be is there is any codified time frame to respond.

 

[spoon059]

I have to wonder about the difference between a form 1 and form 4 suppressor. Form 1 took me about a month (iirc) to get approved. How can the ATF justify a YEAR for a form 4?

The end result is theoretically the same, legal possession of a suppressor.

I think that is an easy argument to make and demand justification.

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[AssMan]

I’m not aware of a codified timeline for review. I think the best plaintiff is probably someone that has waited a year for a form 4 for an SBR or MG. I’m not sure if a suppressor is considered an “arm” - but that’s a question for the legal eagles.


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[Inigoes]

What's an infringement? 3 days, 7 days, 10 days, 1 month? I'd say anything over 30 days is a significant infringement. Today's wait times are absolutely an infringement. Why hasn't this been challenged?

Fastest I ever been approved by the ATF has been 3 weeks, but that was back before 2013.

 

[AlBeight]

Silencer Shop Christmas Sweater

Starts to Ship December 16th

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Need an ugly Christmas sweater?

 

[AssMan]

 

[John from MD]

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It seems to be getting better. My last paper Form 4 took about a year and 45 days.

 

[redsandman6]

the paper form 4s times are going to start to get shorter. eform 4s started at the end the of dec 2021. there will be less paper form 4s to process. i say by march eform and paper forms will have the same wait times

i have a paper form 4 for 1/20/22 i am almost there i did (2) eform 1s in may and it took 2 weeks to get those stamps.

 

[DaemonAssassin]

Quit complaining till you exceed 400 days.

 

[John from MD]

Quit complaining till you exceed 400 days.

That's telling them.

 

[USAF05]

at 220 days on my eform 4..maybe it's their way of making sure you don't ever want to go through the process again...

 

[CrueChief]

I have asked several times but have never gotten a real answer so, What is it above a regular NICS check are they doing that takes months?