A relative wants to sell handguns for her dead spouse

[efeng9622]

She want to directly sell two handguns to a Maryland or Virginia dealer , not private sell, also she don't want to apply a HQL to switch the title to own these guns, the title are still under her husband name. I remember I sold two handguns on Virginia gun shows since I moved to Maryland, but I only was asked to provide the DL and no one ask about if I am the owner or not, but I never sold other person's gun, so I have no experience to answer the above question.
Thanks.

 

[ChannelCat]

This should be legal, but have the FFL produce a bill of sale.

 

[rseymorejr]

Oh Jesus. Here we go again.

 

[Mightydog]

O boy…here we go again!

 

[Growler215]

10 second Google search:

Inherited Regulated handgun in MD

I've done a forum search and seem to be drawing a blank. A friend passed away recently and he has at least one pistol. I know his wife has to go to MSP and complete a firearms application. But with October's law, will she now need an HQL or is she exempt?

www.mdshooters.com

"Correct, inherited firearms are exempt from the HQL requirement. All she has to do is go to the barracks and fill out the paperwork. There is no fee for inheritance transfers."

Has this changed?

 

[Boats]

What is your question, OP.

You haven't asked a question

 

[Tapper]

If she’s the executor/PR for the estate, I wouldn’t think she’d have any issue selling to a licensed dealer. Also, I wouldn’t think she’d have to transfer to her name to then sell.

(Unsure of the previous history as I’m new here)

 

[Melnic]

I have never had a title for a firearm. Cars, boats, motorcycles yes.

 

[BurkeM]

She want to directly sell two handguns to a Maryland or Virginia dealer , not private sell, also she don't want to apply a HQL to switch the title to own these guns, the title are still under her husband name.

Handguns are not 'titled,' she can sell directly to any FFL without any issues.

No HQL is needed to SELL.

 

[hillbilly grandpa]

I had a similar question brought to me just last week. A call to Pikesville produced the following directives.
1. The widow needs to effect a transfer by inheritance into her name. No HQL required.
2. Widow can then sell/transfer the regulated firearm to whomever she chooses--a secondary transfer. If to a private individual that person will need in HQL.
3. In this case, since multiple regulated firearms are involved, the trooper advised waiting until the Designated Collector letter arrives, then meet at the barracks, transfer all under one 77R, wait the seven days, then complete the transfer. Trooper advised not to make it more complicated than it needed to be.

(Parenthetically, the civilian employee I spoke with initially opined that the process was very complex and since the widow is physically unable to complete an HQL process, which was represented as mandatory, the alternative would be to surrender the firearms to MSP. One of the downsides of expanded non-sworn employees made necessary by the volume of new W&C applicants is that callers often deal with people who are ill-informed and under-trained. I've had this experience on several occasions. I've had to endure these conversations, then raise substantive questions, before a request to speak to a trooper is complied with.)

 

[Squaregrouper]

If she’s the executor/PR for the estate, I wouldn’t think she’d have any issue selling to a licensed dealer. Also, I wouldn’t think she’d have to transfer to her name to then sell.

(Unsure of the previous history as I’m new here)

This is how we handled them when I worked for an FFL. Her identification and his death certificate were enough to suffice our record keeping. (Yes, we kept copies of both in our files)

I had a similar question brought to me just last week. A call to Pikesville produced the following directives.
1. The widow needs to effect a transfer by inheritance into her name. No HQL required.
2. Widow can then sell/transfer the regulated firearm to whomever she chooses--a secondary transfer. If to a private individual that person will need in HQL.
3. In this case, since multiple regulated firearms are involved, the trooper advised waiting until the Designated Collector letter arrives, then meet at the barracks, transfer all under one 77R, wait the seven days, then complete the transfer. Trooper advised not to make it more complicated than it needed to be.

(Parenthetically, the civilian employee I spoke with initially opined that the process was very complex and since the widow is physically unable to complete an HQL process, which was represented as mandatory, the alternative would be to surrender the firearms to MSP. One of the downsides of expanded non-sworn employees made necessary by the volume of new W&C applicants is that callers often deal with people who are ill-informed and under-trained. I've had this experience on several occasions. I've had to endure these conversations, then raise substantive questions, before a request to speak to a trooper is complied with.)

I have never heard of this process when disposing of a deceased's firearms to a licensed FFL. To a private person, it might actually be that complicated.

 

[Tapper]

I had a similar question brought to me just last week. A call to Pikesville produced the following directives.
1. The widow needs to effect a transfer by inheritance into her name. No HQL required.
2. Widow can then sell/transfer the regulated firearm to whomever she chooses--a secondary transfer. If to a private individual that person will need in HQL.
3. In this case, since multiple regulated firearms are involved, the trooper advised waiting until the Designated Collector letter arrives, then meet at the barracks, transfer all under one 77R, wait the seven days, then complete the transfer. Trooper advised not to make it more complicated than it needed to be.

(Parenthetically, the civilian employee I spoke with initially opined that the process was very complex and since the widow is physically unable to complete an HQL process, which was represented as mandatory, the alternative would be to surrender the firearms to MSP. One of the downsides of expanded non-sworn employees made necessary by the volume of new W&C applicants is that callers often deal with people who are ill-informed and under-trained. I've had this experience on several occasions. I've had to endure these conversations, then raise substantive questions, before a request to speak to a trooper is complied with.)

I’m sorry, but that just doesn’t sound accurate. Also, I don’t have very much faith in MSP to know the law either (even though they’re tasked with enforcing it). I know of a situation similar to above and the PR was asked if their name was on the Death certificate. SMH

 

[Huckleberry]

Is the Widow Lady hot?

Did she happen to inherit the title to a bass boat and 4x4?

 

[efeng9622]

What is your question, OP.

You haven't asked a question

10 second Google search:

Inherited Regulated handgun in MD

I've done a forum search and seem to be drawing a blank. A friend passed away recently and he has at least one pistol. I know his wife has to go to MSP and complete a firearms application. But with October's law, will she now need an HQL or is she exempt?

www.mdshooters.com

"Correct, inherited firearms are exempt from the HQL requirement. All she has to do is go to the barracks and fill out the paperwork. There is no fee for inheritance transfers."

Has this changed?

My question now is if she can inherit there guns without HQL requirement , she may hasn't to sell guns and just go to barracks to finish the paperwork, that's easy way. Applying the HQL need spend around $250 and take 4 hours class. but , has this rule changed?

 

[efeng9622]

Handguns are not 'titled,' she can sell directly to any FFL without any issues.

No HQL is needed to SELL.

I mean "title" is a person's name which is on the MPD system, not a paper title like a car.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Is there someone other than the Widow who is Personal Representative of the Estate instead ?

 

[eruby]

Hypothetically, if everything, and everyone was pre October 1996, just take possession

Not saying anything. Just sayin'

I obay 100% of constitutional laws

 

[LGood48]

Any takers want to guess how many pages this thread will go???

 

[rseymorejr]

Any takers want to guess how many pages this thread will go???

The real question is how many threads?

 

[LGood48]

The real question is how many threads?

This is very true!