Active LEO in full uniform asked to remove firearm (Medstar urgent care)

[teratos]

I don't know what it will take to get this through people's heads. Bad guys with guns don't care about your policies...

 

[crazycarl7]

I can tell you 100% this isnt their policy and must have been done by the request of someone working there. Which is sad that they would stoop to that employees level and ask a LEO in uniform to remove their firearm.

You sure about that? That’s not my take

 

[Trbo6gn]

Why would any cop with sense wear his or her uniform when they’re not on duty and being paid?

Maybe the guy was at work and got a call that his son injured himself and needed to be taken to the hospital. Would you expect him to go home and change his clothes before picking up his son to take him for medical treatment? If anything whoever told the officer to disarm caused the child's medical care to be delayed. I'm sure once the officer was told this, he went elsewhere to seek treatment for his child. Asking a cop to be in full uniform while unarmed is ridiculous in today's environment.

 

[strapped]

Why would any cop with sense wear his or her uniform when they’re not on duty and being paid?

To get a discount at Chic Fil A?

 

[welder516]

In uniform or out of uniform, in squad car out of squad car should be no concern or factor on a legal carry.

I was given a business courtesy at Md. State Fair carrying to pick up monies. I showed my permit and invoices and the guy said no worries you are working.

 

[crazycarl7]

Maybe the guy was at work and got a call that his son injured himself and needed to be taken to the hospital. Would you expect him to go home and change his clothes before picking up his son to take him for medical treatment? If anything whoever told the officer to disarm caused the child's medical care to be delayed. I'm sure once the officer was told this, he went elsewhere to seek treatment for his child. Asking a cop to be in full uniform while unarmed is ridiculous in today's environment.

This . They also told him He could wait in the car while “they” treated his child (who was a minor). He left and went somewhere else

 

[eruby]

I hate people

 

[Trbo6gn]

This . They also told him He could wait in the car while “they” treated his child (who was a minor). He left and went somewhere else

I'd be reaching out to the security director for Medstar. It just so happens that it's the retired superintendent of the State Police, William Pallozzi.

 

[Ap5fan]

Why would any cop with sense wear his or her uniform when they’re not on duty and being paid?

I believe the poster said the officers kid was there for an x-ray, maybe something happened while the officer was on duty and he picked his kid up and went right to the facility.

 

[Ap5fan]

You sure about that? That’s not my take

I am 100% sure its not Medstar policyas a whole , another person already commented they were at Medstar WHC (Washington Hospital Center) ans they are an officer and wasnt asked to take their firearm off. Maybe whoever runs the Bel Air Facility has their own rule or like I said maybe someone "felt uncomfertable" who knows.

 

[Inigoes]

So you're saying citizens and cops are now being treated equally? No qualms here.

More like patients.

If a patient is going to seek treatment at Medstar, they need to disarm before entering the premises. My guess is they (aka Medstar) do not have to capacity to ensure the safety/security of valuables and firearms.

A LEO in the performance of their duties, should not be expected to disarm.

 

[5cary]

2 things:

So you're saying citizens and cops are now being treated equally? No qualms here.

1) Nothing "equal" about this situation. A cop in uniform, on duty or off, can easily become a target. They may also be expected to act in a situation where citizens might not.

2) I'm recently retired fed LEO, and I couldn't agree more on "LE carve outs". I'm old enough to join the "I will not comply" and "concealed means concealed" crowd. I do, however, have two teenage sons that are quite proficient with firearms. Neither has an interest in LE and I want their rights to match my own. I'm all for killing carve outs.

But this situation goes beyond equal rights for citizens and cops.

 

[RFBfromDE]

To get a discount at Chic Fil A?

If you hear about an old White guy, impersonating an officer to get a discount at Chic Fil A, you will know it is me.

Why will "White guy" be mentioned in the article?

Because, Chic Fil A.

 

[Moonlighter]

I'm just envisioning the Karen that told the officer to put his gun in his car screaming "DO SOMETHING" when a dickhead active shooter comes into their facility.

With the number of LEO's that have committed "mass shootings" I'm sure she's right on this. SMFH...

 

[Inigoes]

2 things:


1) Nothing "equal" about this situation. A cop in uniform, on duty or off, can easily become a target. They may also be expected to act in a situation where citizens might not.

2) I'm recently retired fed LEO, and I couldn't agree more on "LE carve outs". I'm old enough to join the "I will not comply" and "concealed means concealed" crowd. I do, however, have two teenage sons that are quite proficient with firearms. Neither has an interest in LE and I want their rights to match my own. I'm all for killing carve outs.

But this situation goes beyond equal rights for citizens and cops.

Who is expected to take control of your firearm when you are unconscious?

 

[crazycarl7]

I'd be reaching out to the security director for Medstar. It just so happens that it's the retired superintendent of the State Police, William Pallozzi.

Interesting

 

[5cary]

Who is expected to take control of your firearm when you are unconscious?

Did I miss something? WTF does that have to do with the conversation?

 

[Inigoes]

Did I miss something? WTF does that have to do with the conversation?

When an armed off duty LEO enters a hospital as a patient or a patient's family member, is very different than a LEO there in performance of their duties.

What would happen to the LEO's firearm if they have to be sedated, or go into an area of the hospital where an MRI (a huge freakin magnet) is needed? The hospital does not have security boxes, and it's unlikely the staff would be trained to safely handle the firearm.

 

[Slhaney]

Yes, that's very true, but I'm getting tired of carveouts for "LEO/retired LEO" in just about every gun law we have.

I have to agree with you. While I have a great deal of respect for LEOs and the job the do, it should not earn them special considerations within the law when they are not on duty. Just my opinion though.

 

[bwceng11]

So you're saying citizens and cops are now being treated equally? No qualms here.

LEO's who work in the State of Maryland on duty or not are required to have their firearm with them at ALL times.