Actor Matthew Mcconaughey calling for gun control

[t84a]

I think he meant periodic checks

Correct. Sorry
Pronoun fixed.

 

[Major03]

This country really doesn't want to fix the problem. If we did, we'd reverse the policies and cultural shifts that have attacked holding people personally responsible for their actions and have encouraged and in some cases rewarded the breakup of families.

 

[mpollan1]

Much easier to say "hard to port" than to actually turn the Titanic.

 

[Threeband]

Never heard of him.

 

[85MikeTPI]

 

[Sirex]

Agreed. There also needs to be periodic checks. A person can, and has, gone nuts while being perfectly fine previously.

So, you agree with the points he made and want periodic checks, from the government, to exercise a fundamental right? We have background checks. Most of these high profile mass shooters have gone thru them. Given HIPPA, I don't think their mental health records even transfer over to the FBI for the background checks, unless they've been held for 30 days or more. The problem with these so called "common sense" gun law proposals is they don't work, will be abused, and don't work. Look up the FBI UCR reports. Deaths by AR15 rifles are less then by hands and feet, but are sensationalized by the media. But handguns account for the overwhelming majority of murders using firearms, and handguns typically are the most regulated non NFA firearm. Maryland for example, has pretty strict gun laws. Yet, criminals steal, and use handguns to commit crimes/murders. They don't care about the bore lock law, don't care about getting a HQL, don't care about the extended background checks, don't care about buying a stolen gun without going thru a mandatory background check and wait period, don't care if they are 21, and don't care if a pistol is on the roster. So, if they don't care about pistols, will more laws pertaining to AR15s really stem anything? I mean criminals are going to do what criminals do, crime. And murder, whether mass murder, or drug/gang related murder is still illegal, and if they are willing to go that far, some stupid feel good law is not going to dissuade them.

Feel good gun laws are nothing but a slope we slide down to lose our freedom. Again, take MD for example. In what, 96, they made it mandatory for all handgun transfers to go thru a FFL, enacted the bore lock law, wait period, etc. Did handgun murders magically disappear? No. Then in 2013 they promised new laws would make MD safer. Now we had to get a license just to buy a handgun, as well as get fingerprinted, to exercise a right. More hurdles. Did crimes using handguns go down? No. If they restrict AR15s, will these mass shooting stop? No. Then we'll get more laws. It'll go from needing to be 21 and a 8 day wait period to needing a license, a reason to have an "assault weapon", like the MD carry permit. Then they'll go after magazines, and possession. Will mass shooting stop? No. Then they'll try to outright ban "assault weapons". Will mass shootings stop? No. If they push thru an "assault weapons" ban, manufacturers will adapt to the market, to create firearms that meet the then set criteria for a legal weapon. Only to be banned further down the road. Weapons designed during the 94 AWB, are now included into the assault weapons ban bills, like HiPoint carbines, Keltecs, and so on. Then it'll evolve into banning repeating firearms like they're trying in Australia. The problem is, it is and incremental inch by inch the leftist gun grabbers are taking. They NEVER stop demanding more restrictions on the law abiding citizens, and consistently fail to hold the actual criminals accountable. We saw a whole lot of this in 2020. An angry mob, breaks down a wrought iron fence to a private neighborhood, marching thru. A homeowner, scared of what will happen to him and his wife, holds an AR15 (force multiplier) and the mob stays away, although threatening him on video. How many in that mob were prosecuted? None. Who did the leftist DA go after? The homeowner. What would have happened to his home, his neighborhood if he hadn't been armed? Who knows, but given the amount of arson, looting, and assaults during the summer of love, Mr Homeowner had a genuine need to protect himself with a force multiplying weapon. Then there was a kid in Kenosha, who used an AR15 to defend his life from an angry, violent mob attempting to burn down and area he was protecting, then aggressively going after him, intent on harming him. He was vastly outnumbered but came out victorious. Anyone who capitulates with these leftist gun grabbers is a traitor. The ones who want "common sense" gun reform, don't give a shit about our safety from the comfort of their bodyguard and fence protected mansions. The left wants control. THAT'S what the CONTROL in gun control is about. If they cared about safety, and gun laws worked, our cities, would be safe.

 

[Sirex]

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Good grief, this is one of the most accurate memes I have seen.

 

[Chat-Bot]

Hey, let's not use "mommies" as a derogatory term

IDK, birthing persons?

 

[t84a]

So, you agree with the points he made and want periodic checks, from the government, to exercise a fundamental right? We have background checks. Most of these high profile mass shooters have gone thru them. Given HIPPA, I don't think their mental health records even transfer over to the FBI for the background checks, unless they've been held for 30 days or more. The problem with these so called "common sense" gun law proposals is they don't work, will be abused, and don't work. Look up the FBI UCR reports. Deaths by AR15 rifles are less then by hands and feet, but are sensationalized by the media. But handguns account for the overwhelming majority of murders using firearms, and handguns typically are the most regulated non NFA firearm. Maryland for example, has pretty strict gun laws. Yet, criminals steal, and use handguns to commit crimes/murders. They don't care about the bore lock law, don't care about getting a HQL, don't care about the extended background checks, don't care about buying a stolen gun without going thru a mandatory background check and wait period, don't care if they are 21, and don't care if a pistol is on the roster. So, if they don't care about pistols, will more laws pertaining to AR15s really stem anything? I mean criminals are going to do what criminals do, crime. And murder, whether mass murder, or drug/gang related murder is still illegal, and if they are willing to go that far, some stupid feel good law is not going to dissuade them.

Feel good gun laws are nothing but a slope we slide down to lose our freedom. Again, take MD for example. In what, 96, they made it mandatory for all handgun transfers to go thru a FFL, enacted the bore lock law, wait period, etc. Did handgun murders magically disappear? No. Then in 2013 they promised new laws would make MD safer. Now we had to get a license just to buy a handgun, as well as get fingerprinted, to exercise a right. More hurdles. Did crimes using handguns go down? No. If they restrict AR15s, will these mass shooting stop? No. Then we'll get more laws. It'll go from needing to be 21 and a 8 day wait period to needing a license, a reason to have an "assault weapon", like the MD carry permit. Then they'll go after magazines, and possession. Will mass shooting stop? No. Then they'll try to outright ban "assault weapons". Will mass shootings stop? No. If they push thru an "assault weapons" ban, manufacturers will adapt to the market, to create firearms that meet the then set criteria for a legal weapon. Only to be banned further down the road. Weapons designed during the 94 AWB, are now included into the assault weapons ban bills, like HiPoint carbines, Keltecs, and so on. Then it'll evolve into banning repeating firearms like they're trying in Australia. The problem is, it is and incremental inch by inch the leftist gun grabbers are taking. They NEVER stop demanding more restrictions on the law abiding citizens, and consistently fail to hold the actual criminals accountable. We saw a whole lot of this in 2020. An angry mob, breaks down a wrought iron fence to a private neighborhood, marching thru. A homeowner, scared of what will happen to him and his wife, holds an AR15 (force multiplier) and the mob stays away, although threatening him on video. How many in that mob were prosecuted? None. Who did the leftist DA go after? The homeowner. What would have happened to his home, his neighborhood if he hadn't been armed? Who knows, but given the amount of arson, looting, and assaults during the summer of love, Mr Homeowner had a genuine need to protect himself with a force multiplying weapon. Then there was a kid in Kenosha, who used an AR15 to defend his life from an angry, violent mob attempting to burn down and area he was protecting, then aggressively going after him, intent on harming him. He was vastly outnumbered but came out victorious. Anyone who capitulates with these leftist gun grabbers is a traitor. The ones who want "common sense" gun reform, don't give a shit about our safety from the comfort of their bodyguard and fence protected mansions. The left wants control. THAT'S what the CONTROL in gun control is about. If they cared about safety, and gun laws worked, our cities, would be safe.

Background checks are really only a snapshot in time.

I don't know the right answer but what we're doing now isn't working.

 

[teratos]

Background checks are really only a snapshot in time.

I don't know the right answer but what we're doing now isn't working.

I can’t imagine a lot of LE agencies don’t run the list daily.

 

[Sirex]

Background checks are really only a snapshot in time.

I don't know the right answer but what we're doing now isn't working.

Well, I am not sure "periodic" checks are the answer. Many of these shooters have purchased their guns fairly close to the time they commit the shootings. They haven't committed a crime yet, so they are not disqualified from owning a firearm. I sure don't want the government "periodically" checking me. Why? Am I a criminal? No, but because they move the goal post on a regular basis. Just not too long ago the left was pushing for monitoring of social media, and pushing credit card companies to monitor purchases. Some very 1984 shit. Besides, as one can clearly see in Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, any major city, background checks don't work. Because criminals don't care. The democrats are hyper focused on the AR15 because of the media perception, mainly due to its popularity and ease of use. And it's a scary black rifle. Yet, according to the FBI, most mass shootings are done using a handgun, and hands and feet kill more people annually than AR15 rifles. Are you for banning or regulating the most popular rifle in America based on the media's narrative?

 

[teratos]

There are a lot of things that would be good in an ideal world, if everyone involved truly was interested in the well-being of everyone else. The problem is, government is never benevolent. Hard no.

 

[Bob A]

Background checks are really only a snapshot in time.

I don't know the right answer but what we're doing now isn't working.

The solution is not going to come from the government, despite the wishes and beliefs of MD's Progressives.

I've been around long enough to remember when the situations we see regularly these days were unthinkable. The changes in society engineered by the combination of hopeful yet naive well-wishing people and the Fifth Column that has been undermining civility for at least 70 years brought into being the modern dysfunctional USA. All that must be undone to effect any sort of cure.

The fact that some 40% of the young think assassination is a valid method of bringing social change are correct, but the direction of that change will only push us further in the wrong direction. It doesn't bode well for returning to civility.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/1/majority-republicans-believe-us-headed-toward-civi/

 

[Combloc]

While I wholeheartedly with your thoughts, the article cited rang of propaganda to me.

 

[Bob A]

While I wholeheartedly with your thoughts, the article cited rang of propaganda to me.

There's a lot of garbage out there, as you mention. I only put in the link so that I could prove I wasn't pulling numbers out of my arse. It doesn't mean that somebody else wasn't, either; but theirs was published, so it passed at least one filter.

Actually, I found the numbers surprising.

 

[ADR]

I can’t imagine a lot of LE agencies don’t run the list daily.

No, the system permissions don't work like that and there's no such thing as running an automated, list based query in NCIC for individual agencies.

 

[MaxVO2]

No, the system permissions don't work like that and there's no such thing as running an automated, list based query in NCIC for individual agencies.

*****Yes, this. I help teach MD conceal carry classes as well as HQL and this question has come up for whatever reason by several students when we discuss MD law as it relates to CCW, and firearm ownership in general. Several of my co-instructors are current LEO's and they said the same thing as above. There is NO running an automated list based inquiry like that.

 

[t84a]

The solution is not going to come from the government, despite the wishes and beliefs of MD's Progressives.

I've been around long enough to remember when the situations we see regularly these days were unthinkable. The changes in society engineered by the combination of hopeful yet naive well-wishing people and the Fifth Column that has been undermining civility for at least 70 years brought into being the modern dysfunctional USA. All that must be undone to effect any sort of cure.

The fact that some 40% of the young think assassination is a valid method of bringing social change are correct, but the direction of that change will only push us further in the wrong direction. It doesn't bode well for returning to civility.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/1/majority-republicans-believe-us-headed-toward-civi/

Surprisingly, the article blames the situation on Trump. Shocking.

 

[Jimgoespewpew]

Matthew McConaughey says country on cusp of bipartisan gun reform after Uvalde: 'This time is different'

Matthew McConaughey detailed his support for reformed gun laws on "Special Report" after discussing the issue with President Joe Biden and lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

www.foxnews.com

Matthew McConaughey doubled down on his calls for gun reform in an exclusive interview on "Special Report" Tuesday after delivering an emotional address challenging gun ownership laws at the White House where he met privately with President Biden.

This ******* was already thinking about running for office. I'm sure the left is knocking down his door to get him to run.

That's all we need is another fvcki*g actor telling us what is best for us.

 

[Bob A]

Surprisingly, the article blames the situation on Trump. Shocking.

He will never be forgiven or forgotten for his effrontery in denying Saint Hillary he anointed role as POTUS.

He and his minions must all be sacrificed on the altar of Progressivism. Only his blood can wash away the stain Trump left on the Totalitarian Movement.