charlie3587
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Which would be best for a rookie shooter to hunt deer with? (mid to close range)
Of the three choices 308, but they usually weigh a good bit more than a bolt action. Is there a reason it has to be an AR? I normally hike in deep, so weight is important.
is that even a thing? i've only heard of .223, 5.56, and .300 aac for AR-15's
AR-10 with an 18" fluted HBAR I just built is 9lbs even with scope and an empty 10 round PMAG.
My Sako Forester, also in .308, with scope is 8lbs 3oz. I mean, you NOTICE that extra weight for sure. But it's not exactly extreme.
I did go through a few hoops to make my AR-10 lighter, but not to the extreme. A light contour barrel probably would shed a further 5-7oz. 2-3oz for going to a 16" barrel.
That said, my 18" 6.5 Grendel AR-15 is 8lbs even with scope, sling and empty steel 10 round magazine. Also a fluted HBAR barrel. Does use a GWACS polymer lower receiver which helps shed a few ounces. Jumped through a ton of hoops, short of a pencil or shorter barrel to shave weight or going to extreme expense. It was originally 8lbs9oz, WITHOUT magazine, when I first built it. Lighter handguard as well as swapping out some steel bits for aluminum or Ti bits helped. Lighter scope rings helped a fair amount too.
Ti gas block and a different linear comp on there will likely shed about another 1 +/- a couple tenths of an oz. Towards the end of the gun too.
AR-10 with an 18" fluted HBAR I just built is 9lbs even with scope and an empty 10 round PMAG.
My Sako Forester, also in .308, with scope is 8lbs 3oz. I mean, you NOTICE that extra weight for sure. But it's not exactly extreme.
I did go through a few hoops to make my AR-10 lighter, but not to the extreme. A light contour barrel probably would shed a further 5-7oz. 2-3oz for going to a 16" barrel.
That said, my 18" 6.5 Grendel AR-15 is 8lbs even with scope, sling and empty steel 10 round magazine. Also a fluted HBAR barrel. Does use a GWACS polymer lower receiver which helps shed a few ounces. Jumped through a ton of hoops, short of a pencil or shorter barrel to shave weight or going to extreme expense. It was originally 8lbs9oz, WITHOUT magazine, when I first built it. Lighter handguard as well as swapping out some steel bits for aluminum or Ti bits helped. Lighter scope rings helped a fair amount too.
Ti gas block and a different linear comp on there will likely shed about another 1 +/- a couple tenths of an oz. Towards the end of the gun too.
Maybe it’s just me, and haven’t put them to a scale, but my Win 70 in 30-06 just carries better and seems lighter than my DPMS AR 10.
I bought to DPMS with the plan to make it a deer hunter as well as a f u to Fudds, but I prefer the bolt gun. Oh well, such is life.