AR Build question/ Trust Question

[toddtrain]

So I would like to build 2 AR's; one for each of my young children. My thinking is I have 2 Pre 2013 lowers I was going to build into HBAR's and then transfer them into a trust for them. My concern is if another '94 AWB happens how could I transfer them in the future to them. This is the only logistical way I could think of but I must be missing something right?

 

[Bourbonstamps]

Grandfathered AWB may pass through inheritance so why not use non-hbar barrel and just be done with it?

 

[toddtrain]

I did not know they could be passed through inheritance. That is what I was wondering.

 

[robmints]

Grandfathered AWB may pass through inheritance so why not use non-hbar barrel and just be done with it?

Because it's against the law. The lowers must have been configured as non hbar before Oct 2013.

 

[outrider58]

Because it's against the law. The lowers must have been configured as non hbar before Oct 2013.

Are you sure about that?

 

[toddtrain]

Why is it against the law. I bought them pre 2013. I can build whatever I want with them. My concern is the hand down in the future to my children. I thought if I wanted to transfer them in MD to a trus they would have to be HBAR.

 

[clandestine]

Are you sure about that?

He is incorrect.

 

[robmints]

He is incorrect.

Wouldn't be the first time. I read the guidance differently. But you do this for a living. Just re-read it. Again. Still clear as mud.

OP, read it for yourself.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Document Downloads/LD-FRS-13-004 (C) - 2013 Firearm's Safety Act.pdf

 

[janklow]

think this is what we're talking about...

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Document D...3 - Receivers of Banned Assault Long Guns.pdf

 

[omegared24]

Are you sure about that?

Even if that was the case, which it isn't, it would be impossible for them to prove otherwise.

 

[Pinecone]

Unless you talk about it on a public forum.

 

[vgplayer]

Why is it against the law. I bought them pre 2013. I can build whatever I want with them. My concern is the hand down in the future to my children. I thought if I wanted to transfer them in MD to a trus they would have to be HBAR.

IANAL
I guess that is the real question. This sparked my curiosity.
Is there a procedure to transfer ownership of a non-NFA firearm to a trust?
In some quick searching, the rest of America these would non-titled property and could just be assigned to the trust.

But in Maryland these are essentially titled property ie there is registration and a transfer process via the 77R.

In Maryland could you do a 77R as a trust? I don't think you can.

If you could then submitting a 77R to transfer to a trust would indeed be a transfer which I would imagine be denied.

IMHO doing stuff like this is a wasted effort and a sign that we are at or beyond the point of no return with respect to our gun rights.

 

[outrider58]

Unless you talk about it on a public forum.

Amen brudda.

 

[hi3cho]

I am sure the OP slapped a non-HBar upper on those pre-SB281 lowers before Oct 2013. So he should be good to go and should confirm in this public forum. To his question, How does the inheritance work if your children are not of age to own the said firearm at the time you pass? Can there be some kind of intermediary that holds the firearm until they reach the age, like a relative? Would that person have access during that time for use/cleaning/storage and just not be able to sell it?

 

[janklow]

I am sure the OP slapped a non-HBar upper on those pre-SB281 lowers before Oct 2013.

per the above letter, that may not even have been necessary.

 

[outrider58]

per the above letter, that may not even have been necessary.

Agreed

 

[esrepairman]

Wouldn't be the first time. I read the guidance differently. But you do this for a living. Just re-read it. Again. Still clear as mud.

OP, read it for yourself.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Document Downloads/LD-FRS-13-004 (C) - 2013 Firearm's Safety Act.pdf

The key word in that document is ADVISORY