AR pistol?

[Indiana Jones]

I talked to a ffl yesterday and he said it was illegal to own a assult pistol? where can u find these laws??

Who is the FFL? He is wrong.

 

[Mdeng]

Great just what I needed another project.

The other day I saw a good price on a pistol length piston upper and couldn't think of why I would want it. I never really liked the buffer tube sticking out of an AR pistol. Now I see there is a plug available when used with some piston uppers. Great even less money in the bank, I'll never be able to retire.

 

[HarCo2ANewb]

Who is the FFL? He is wrong.

Unless the FFL was thinking about machine pistols like the Tec-9 because those are illegal

 

[Indiana Jones]

Unless the FFL was thinking about machine pistols like the Tec-9 because those are illegal

Out if curiosity, why were they made illegal? Guessing a usual leftist knee jerk type ban...

Are the ones grandfathered in still transferable?

 

[HarCo2ANewb]

Actually MD does call them Assault Pistols....

http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-law/title-4/subtitle-3/4-301/

And probably cuz dem white bois is skerred of gangz

 

[SRD]

Were they sold as lowers only in MD? If so how long ago?

I bought them here in MD (The Armory) about 7 years ago

I bought 2 at the armory last year.They insisted that they check "rifle", reason they told me was they were sold to them as such.I don't have the paper work with me so I'm not sure what they put on the 77R.

 

[hodgepodge]

I talked to a ffl yesterday and he said it was illegal to own a assult pistol? where can u find these laws??

Umm, what's an assault pistol?

 

[TyFromMD]

Umm, what's an assault pistol?

Great question.

 

[erwos]

Umm, what's an assault pistol?

This page will list them for you:
http://www.mdgunsafety.com/mspfaq.htm

The short list of guns on that list that anyone cares about:
1. Tec-9
2. Uzi pistol (semi-auto)
3. HK SP-89 (semi-auto)
4. Mac-10/11 (semi-auto)

I always wanted an Uzi pistol for the lolz, but that's about it.

 

[TROOPER]

Actually MD does call them Assault Pistols....

http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-law/title-4/subtitle-3/4-301/

And probably cuz dem white bois is skerred of gangz

I'm not sure a standard AR platform pistol, falls under any of the listed firearms.

The closest thing is probably the "Bushmaster semiautomatic pistol", but that's such a generic description at best.

Even then the ones I have found are either pistol caliber variants, or piston systems.
I even found a bullpup design, so I'm not sure a standard AR platform even falls under this label.

It states specific models or a "copy" of these models.

Now we have to define "copy"....

Surely it's only a "copy" if it's an exact replica?

Right down to mechanical workings, design and caliber.

So I still don't think an AR platform pistols can be classed as any firearm on that list.

 

[Ab_Normal]

Out if curiosity, why were they made illegal? Guessing a usual leftist knee jerk type ban...

Are the ones grandfathered in still transferable?

They were made illegal because some politicians were scared of their looks. The ban on 'assault pistols' occured shortly after the ban on 'saturday night specials' since they were now 'the weapon of choice among drug dealers'.

They are transferable in Md. to heirs of an estate or they can be sold to someone out of state - federal laws followed of course.

 

[Ab_Normal]

I'm not sure a standard AR platform pistol, falls under any of the listed firearms.

The closest thing is probably the "Bushmaster semiautomatic pistol", but that's such a generic description at best.

Even then the ones I have found are either pistol caliber variants, or piston systems.
I even found a bullpup design, so I'm not sure a standard AR platform even falls under this label.

It states specific models or a "copy" of these models.

Now we have to define "copy"....

Surely it's only a "copy" if it's an exact replica?

Right down to mechanical workings, design and caliber.

So I still don't think an AR platform pistols can be classed as any firearm on that list.

The AR pattern pistols are not a copy of any listed firearm and there are currently even a couple (from Bushmaster I believe) that are on the approved list for sale in Md. Search is your friend.

 

[TROOPER]

The AR pattern pistols are not a copy of any listed firearm and there are currently even a couple (from Bushmaster I believe) that are on the approved list for sale in Md. Search is your friend.

I intend on completing my pistol build, don't worry

 

[erwos]

The AR pattern pistols are not a copy of any listed firearm and there are currently even a couple (from Bushmaster I believe) that are on the approved list for sale in Md. Search is your friend.

Correct. The Bushmaster pistol on the list is NOT an AR pistol.

 

[hvymax]

Great just what I needed another project.

The other day I saw a good price on a pistol length piston upper and couldn't think of why I would want it. I never really liked the buffer tube sticking out of an AR pistol. Now I see there is a plug available when used with some piston uppers. Great even less money in the bank, I'll never be able to retire.

Which one? Where? How much?

 

[ThawMyTongue]

This is the Bushmaster pistol in question... Nothing AR about it. Seems the Bushmaster name conjures up images of AR-15 profile firearms which leads to confusion.

As I understand it there is no issue building an AR pistol, but to buy an already built model requires it being on MSP list. For example, I believe the LWRC pistol is on the list. So once you build your pistol, you can't sell it.

***Just realized I had made a post identical to this one on page one of this thread...

 

[TROOPER]

This is the Bushmaster pistol in question... Nothing AR about it. Seems the Bushmaster name conjures up images of AR-15 profile firearms which leads to confusion.

As I understand it there is no issue building an AR pistol, but to buy an already built model requires it being on MSP list. For example, I believe the LWRC pistol is on the list. So once you build your pistol, you can't sell it.

***Just realized I had made a post identical to this one on page one of this thread...

[YT]Jk7WuvNKe_g[/YT]

 

[ThawMyTongue]

[YT]Jk7WuvNKe_g[/YT]

I deserved that...











BTW, I think I have a pic of a Bushmaster pistol here somewhere...

 

[HarCo2ANewb]

I thought it looked familiar but I thought it was from one of the other 483728857373859 AR pistol threads.

 

[aquaman]

http://www.kwikrnuarms.com/BATFE op...and response 9-11-11 12-23-11 buffer tube.pdf

Read through this for info on AR pistols/ rifle buffers/ constructive intent ETC