armed protestor at town hall meeting in NH

[K Train]

I didnt see this posted here, he was carrying an empty handgun w/ no mag...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/protester-with-gun-found_n_256614.html

 

[mikec]

K Train, the MSNBC clip had the guy and he basically inferred that the gun was loaded. "WOW, who would be silly enough to carry an unloaded gun?"

MSNBC link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp=32378192�

 

[Spot77]

K-Train,

If you ever post another link to a HuffPo article that I inadvertantly read I'll ban you for life, AND your kids' grandkids.


Kidding of course, but those people are SERIOUSLY off the deep end. I can't imagine being so dedicated to one religi....er political party that your mouth runs way faster than your brain.

 

[K Train]

it was linked from another site to another site w/ shitty pics i was trying to find some site w/ vid....

 

[hole punch]

i grouaned when i read the headline, but now that i've seen the videos, i totally back this guy, William Kostric, 100%. He's a sane, law-abiding, patriot, a responsible gun owner, and a libertarian who voted for Ron Paul.

If more events went down like this, would if hurt or help our cause? is this too "shocking" to help desensitize people to guns?

 

[ezliving]

 

[HoCoShooter]

That's absolutely the last thing we need.

 

[Simon Yu]

If more events went down like this, would if hurt or help our cause? is this too "shocking" to help desensitize people to guns?

It severely hurts. People always latch onto the most extreme example and focus on that to the exclusion of others. The focus needs to be on the sheer number of people against the proposals, not on a few people against it.

 

[ezliving]

Gun-Toting Man Draws Scrutiny Outside Obama Town Hall

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Posted by Declan McCullagh

(AP Photo/Jim Cole)​

New Hampshire state law is pretty clear about protecting its citizens' rights to carry firearms in public. Carrying a pistol or revolver openly is permitted without a license; carrying a concealed weapon requires a license from the state or local police.

William Kostric took advantage of that law on Tuesday to show up outside President Obama's Portsmouth, N.H. town hall meeting and hold a sign saying "It Is Time To Water The Tree Of Liberty." That invokes a phrase from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Kostric did not immediately respond to an interview request from CBSNews.com.

Portsmouth police spokesman Lt. Frank Warchol told the Boston Globe that because Kostric was on private property -- it belongs to a church near the school with the town hall meeting -- he would not be arrested. "We can't do anything about it," Warchol said. "Obviously he's on our radar screen at this time."

Kostric was there around 11 a.m. ET, before Mr. Obama even left the White House en route for the Granite State, and there's no indication he ever laid eyes on the president. Nevertheless, around that time (11:35 a.m., to be precise) MSNBC's Carlos Watson called for Kostric to be forcibly disarmed: "I cannot imagine that there aren't enough lawyers in New Hampshire who can't file some sort of emergency injunction." One of his guests added: "Why can't we get rid of him now?"

MSNBC's Chris Matthews invited Kostric on his show and wondered why "you're carrying a goddamned gun at a presidential event?" (Kostric's reply: He was there peacefully, guns aren't unusual in New Hampshire, and Americans lose rights unless they exercise them.)

One MSNBC.com report indicates that Kostric was approached by a detective, possibly a Secret Service agent, who told him he could be arrested within 1,000 feet of a school with a weapon under a federal law.

Some background: the 1990 Gun-Free School Zones Act said that it "shall be unlawful" to possess a firearm within 1,000 feet of an elementary or secondary school.

That law is no longer on the books. In the case of U.S. v. Lopez, decided in 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court said violated Congress' powers to regulate interstate commerce and was therefore unconstitutional.

Congress re-enacted a version in 1996 with a narrower definition of interstate commerce; it says the statute does not apply "on private property not part of school grounds" or to anyone with a carry permit, with Kostric may or may not have.

It's reasonable to not understand the intricacies of gun laws; many vary from state to state, and few are written especially clearly.

But you'd hope that television commentators would take the time to learn at least a little before calling for measures such as court injunctions and disarming by police. One thing that MSNBC's hosts could have added is that a lawsuit filed last week in Washington, D.C. seeks to establish a broad Second Amendment right to carry firearms in public -- which, if successful, could mean that William Kostric's exercise in public handgun ownership will become much more commonplace.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5235445.shtml

 

[Kashmir1008]

OH MY GOD ..... A GUN. EVERYBODY RUN!!!!! HIT THE DECK!!!!!!!!

He's not even anywhere near where the pres is gonna be. It's not the guy with open carry that you have to worry about.

What a bunch of retards.

 

[hole punch]

OH MY GOD ..... A GUN. EVERYBODY RUN!!!!! HIT THE DECK!!!!!!!!

He's not even anywhere near where the pres is gonna be. It's not the guy with open carry that you have to worry about.

What a bunch of retards.

+1. i believe the term is "libtards"

 

[Falkus]

Retards I would be glad to see a guy armed on the side ...

 

[hole punch]

Retards I would be glad to see a guy armed on the side ...

Would make you feel safer, right?

 

[ezliving]

I bet Chris Matthews would have been more polite if the Kostric interview had been done on location, in person.

Matthews probably would have felt a little tinkle down his leg.

 

[novus collectus]

I bet Chris Matthews would have been more polite if the Kostric interview had been done on location, in person.

Matthews probably would have felt a little tinkle down his leg.

Want to hear some irony? Chris Mathews was armed with a handgun around members of Congress and maybe the Vice Preisdent and maybe the President of the United States decades ago.
Granted he was a US Capitol policeman at the time, but still, it is ironic nevertheless when he tries to imply it is a risk or danger to have law abiding people armed around political figures (which the NH guy was not even around actually).

 

[rrrrrrkevin]

I dont care if hes pissing people off,people like that make me proud to be an american and you dont get that feeling often enough anymore from watching the news.

 

[Brychan]

OMG some one didn't break the law, news at 11:00!!!
Are the going to start having breaking news for someone wearing an ugly tie?
To bad there weren't 200 or 300 more armed law abiding citizens exerising their rights.

 

[BMore]

Watching the MSNBC news cast made me shake my head in digust and made me glad I cancelled cable a long time ago. The host wants to suspend the Constitution because a man was legally carrying a gun and exercising his 1st amendment rights.

 

[ozwyn]

Media missed the real message - the protestor awas armed for two reasons:

1. He didn't get the purple shirt thug treatment like other protestors did the last couple of weeks.
2. Historically, the people do not abide a government that ignores them forever.

If he was NOT armed, do you think the media would have covered him, or the Union thugs who would have kicked the hell out of him? Probably not.

 

[Boondock Saint]

Chris Mathews was practically foaming at the mouth questioning this guy. What a complete and unapologetic fool.