AUCTION PURCHASE / NON FFL

[1Shifter]

I apologize if this has been asked before, I did a quick search and came up blank. I'm interested in bidding on a firearm listed on GB from an individual who does not have an FFL and resides out-of-state.The gun is considered C/R. I don't want to jeapordize my license (which I just got in October) or do anything that puts the seller at risk.Assuming I were to win, could the rifle be shipped to me and treated as any other purchase? Bound Book etc...
Thanks

 

[Dave91]

Yes, it's perfectly legal for them to ship it to you since you have an FFL. You will need their name, drivers license number, and DOB for your bound book since they don't have an FFL.

 

[1Shifter]

Thanks Dave..

I appreciate your help.

 

[FoxFirearms]

Just have them include a copy of their DL with the shipment, and you can keep it in your records.

 

[6pack]

Most important part: what are you getting??

 

[mgbill]

Where are you guys coming up with this Driver's license business? And age? Of the seller? The ATF only calls for the Name and Address or Name and License Number of the seller. Why make it more complicated than it is?

 

[good guy 176]

Where are you guys coming up with this Driver's license business? And age? Of the seller? The ATF only calls for the Name and Address or Name and License Number of the seller. Why make it more complicated than it is?

When I sell on the CMP sites, I send a copy of my Merryland driver's license and and a hand written bill of sale, to show to whom it may concern that the SN on that piece is being transferred out of my name.

Lew--Ranger63
Unsafe, Merryland 20769

 

[CasualObserver]

Where are you guys coming up with this Driver's license business? And age? Of the seller? The ATF only calls for the Name and Address or Name and License Number of the seller. Why make it more complicated than it is?

You are correct, for receipt from a private individual (non FFL) you only need their name and address for your bound book. You don't need their name, address, dob, and DL or other ID # unless it is a disposition. However, if they are willing to provide a copy of their ID, I try to get it. That way if there is a problem (ie stolen firearm) down the road, I have something more then a name/address and an old auction listing for Five-O. That said, I don't always get a copy of their ID for my receipt records.

 

[Dave91]

Where are you guys coming up with this Driver's license business? And age? Of the seller? The ATF only calls for the Name and Address or Name and License Number of the seller. Why make it more complicated than it is?

I was thinking of disposition. You are right that if you're receiving from a non FFL you only need DL number and name.

 

[mgbill]

I was thinking of disposition. You are right that if you're receiving from a non FFL you only need DL number and name.

Don't you mean FFL number and name, or simply address and name? DL is not necessary for acquisitions.

 

[Machodoc]

I'm not likely to buy something from anyone not willing to give me good ID, and that info is going to stay with me as part of my records. It may not be part of a bound book entry, and it may not be required, but I'd do it just to cover my own butt if the firearm was stolen, used in a crime, etc. There's "required" and then there's "smart".

 

[1Shifter]

Seller Agreed...

The seller agreed to provide a copy of his DL, didn't have a problem with it because that's what he does when he uses his local FFL. I think he's an experienced seller.

 

[Dave91]

Don't you mean FFL number and name, or simply address and name? DL is not necessary for acquisitions.

DL number is acceptable in place of address.