Banned holsters??

[SRD]

Not sure if this is the right place to post and also not much info. provided.I don't think he's a member since I did a search on the topic.I know these have been discussed to no end,but figured I'd post in case of some new pertinent info.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=600222

 

[StantonCree]

A lot of departments stopped using them because a few FBI agents shot themselves in the leg Tex Grubner style.....nothing new here.

Has nothing to do with a ban for citizens FYI

 

[aquashooter]

I personally have never used one and have no honest opinion. However, when I did my LEOSA requalification last spring, I was told not to use the Black Hawk "Sherpa" holster. This was through the P G County Municipal Police Academy. Whether or not the county police can use them is unknown.

 

[Les Gawlik]

I just watched this video a few days ago. I thought it was a very good discussion of the pros and cons of the Serpa. Short version- if your training trigger discipline is up to par, it's a great holster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUCqk00SKBU

 

[ProShooter]

We don't allow them in our classes.

 

[aaron.foulk]

I just watched this video a few days ago. I thought it was a very good discussion of the pros and cons of the Serpa. Short version- if your training trigger discipline is up to par, it's a great holster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUCqk00SKBU

My problem with this logic is that it sets up fallible human beings for a fall due to their own pride and arrogance about their skill.

Are they inherently dangerous? No. But they unnecessarily set up a less than desirable set of circumstances for a person learning to draw from a holster where they have to do something with their index finger other than keep it out of the trigger guard during the draw.

These are not allowed for new shooters at certain IDPA clubs as a matter of club policy. I believe that is a wise decision. As an SO, I'd be happy if I never saw one of these at a match again.

 

[S1owJam]

These are primarily what our guys use on deployments. Never seen an ND from using them. Thanks for the links though.

 

[SRD]

We don't allow them in our classes.

Kinda why I posted here (not directed towards you,just using the quote).The OP in the linked thread is from Md. and I assume with an agency in Md. also.I thought it might lead to some relevant info.

 

[steves1911]

A few years ago when I worked for an armored truck service I used a serpa 6 days a week for a year and a half and really liked it. It held a m&p 45 fwiw.

 

[marko12]

SRD, thanks for the heads-up !

 

[3/2ACR Vet]

Also, Serpa Blackhawk holsters can get jammed by snow and debris, fwiw

 

[Biggfoot44]

Ask an old fart about JayPee swivel holsters , and Clamshells.

 

[byf43]

Ask an old fart about JayPee swivel holsters , and Clamshells.

^^^ Haven't heard that name in a while!!!!!!!

And yes, I'm a gray-haired old fart!!!


FWIW, my Serpa sits in a drawer, now.
For concealed carry, the Galco "Stinger" or Bianchi "Remedy" are GREAT for OWB!!
The Serpa is NOT a good concealed carry holster, unless you're wearing a poncho or Eskimo suit.

 

[Biggfoot44]

For our younger members who aren't collector of historic LE leather gear , with the above referenced ( expremely popular holster into at least the mid '70s , one had to insert the finger into the trigger gaurd , in firing position , to release the gun.

*In general* it takes an excellently designed Paddle holster to be as concealable as a mediocre pancake holster. Before there were Serpas , the notorous one was the fobous Roto-Holster .

 

[Biggfoot44]

0ouble post

 

[aaron.foulk]

For our younger members who aren't collector of historic LE leather gear , with the above referenced ( expremely popular holster into at least the mid '70s , one had to insert the finger into the trigger gaurd , in firing position , to release the gun.

*In general* it takes an excellently designed Paddle holster to be as concealable as a mediocre pancake holster. Before there were Serpas , the notorous one was the fobous Roto-Holster .

Wow. Did the Deluxe model have an attachment that would swipe off the safety on your 1911 for you as you drew the gun, too?

 

[StantonCree]

Ask an old fart about JayPee swivel holsters , and Clamshells.

Hahahahahaha those were a terrible idea.

As sad as it is below was an UPGRADE from Jaypee

 

[Eastcoasttj]

The serpas i've found were pretty good. I use a standard leather holster for my day to day but liked the serpa for making entrys. It was a lot easier to place the gun back in the holster if you needed your hands quickly. (Leather strap on top sometimes got caught inside of holster if you were rushing) Never heard of a problem with ND. Thanks for the post.

 

[aquashooter]

As a rookie in 1973, I was issued a swivel holster. Hard to draw while sitting, but definitely more comfortable in a vehicle.

 

[fleaman64]

what a bunch of crybabies. this is such a protectionist CYA move