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  • a117240

    Member
    Jun 16, 2023
    20
    Silver Spring
    I am new and this is my first AR. Are these good parts to build an AR with?
    Thank you for your recommendation


    Upper:
    -VLTOR MUR
    -Centurion C4 Mid FSP rail
    -SOLGW barrel mid-length w/BCM F marked FSP
    -FCD 6315KM p/w
    -Badger Ordinance clear ano CH
    -Sionics NP3 OEM BCG
    -TA31
    -Modlite clear ano OKW head, FDE body, DS00 tail cap, unity hot button.
    -Dead Air Nomad 30
    Lower:
    -ADM UIC
    -FCD trigger, end plate, castle nut, and receiver extension
    -Radian clear ano Tallon safety
    -VLTOR A5H2 buffer
    -Springco green spring
    -VLTOR IMOD stock
     

    DutchV

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 8, 2012
    4,739
    The brands are fine. Still need to gauge everything and assemble properly.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    23,075
    Socialist State of Maryland
    I am new and this is my first AR. Are these good parts to build an AR with?
    Thank you for your recommendation


    Upper:
    -VLTOR MUR
    -Centurion C4 Mid FSP rail
    -SOLGW barrel mid-length w/BCM F marked FSP
    -FCD 6315KM p/w
    -Badger Ordinance clear ano CH
    -Sionics NP3 OEM BCG
    -TA31
    -Modlite clear ano OKW head, FDE body, DS00 tail cap, unity hot button.
    -Dead Air Nomad 30
    Lower:
    -ADM UIC
    -FCD trigger, end plate, castle nut, and receiver extension
    -Radian clear ano Tallon safety
    -VLTOR A5H2 buffer
    -Springco green spring
    -VLTOR IMOD stock
    It's customary to introduce yourself in the introduction forum when you first come onboard.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,761
    Glen Burnie
    All of that stuff, just looking some of it up, seems to be top-shelf in terms of price and quality. I should put together a quick spreadsheet to see what the bottom line would be all is said and done in terms of price, and because of that I wonder if we're getting pranked.

    For me, my first AR was a total budget build. Actually, all of my ARs are budget builds - working to get a good "bang for the buck" on price vs quality. My first build was a blem Del Ton midlength rifle build. I've since replaced the trigger, but otherwise it's still like it was when I got it, and it had a completed upper, so I didn't really "build" that one.

    They all shoot well within the specs of what the US Government expects out of an M4, and they all function without issue - no jams, misfeeds, etc.

    I think that the AR platform is one of those things that has been unnecessarily modded and customized well past the point of diminishing returns, all under the guise of "if you're going to trust your life with it, you NEED to spend a lot of money on it."

    It's like the doctor or lawyer who wants to spend ungodly amounts of money on a custom guitar from either boutique guitar makers, or places like the Fender, Gibson, or Paul Reed Smith custom shops, plug them into expensive boutique pedals that run into expensive boutique amps, and then they never gig - they just suck as musicians in their practice room at home.

    At least they can't blame the gear.
     

    Bountied

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 6, 2012
    7,215
    Pasadena
    My builds are mostly budget as well. I spend the money on the barrel, BCG, and trigger the rest is whatever. I like the Magpul stuff and a decent rail, MW, Troy etc. Then optics usually a Romeo 5, I didn't realize I have 8 of them on various guns. I actually found one under my work bench the other day that I never opened. If he was trolling he'd have Noveske everything in there. But it's odd his first AR is getting a can, ACOG etc.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,761
    Glen Burnie
    I took the time to do a quick workup on the price. I didn't dig to find the best price available for the parts, I just checked the normal places like Midway USA, Optics Planet, etc.

    It's a $2000 build without the optic or suppressor, and it's a $4000 build with them. Give or take. Sheesh - I don't think I have $4k in the four I have total, including optics! I think I worked out one time that I spent about $700 each, give or take, on the "twins" - the matching ARs I built for my me and my son.

    Twins.jpeg


    I'm sure it would be a solid build though - it would probably look pretty cool too with some of the parts being clear anodized.
     

    Bountied

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 6, 2012
    7,215
    Pasadena
    Yeah why not just buy a high end pre built gun with that budget? That way you get customer support and some kind of warranty. He also seems to have ghosted.
     

    King Chicken

    I identify as King/Emperor
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 24, 2022
    1,756
    Land Full of Marys - MoCo
    Yeah why not just buy a high end pre built gun with that budget? That way you get customer support and some kind of warranty. He also seems to have ghosted.
    Would that save money? Would replacing parts like a trigger or compensator on said "high end gun" void the warranty?
    I have a list like this too...except with modestly priced parts...

    ty
     

    clandestine

    AR-15 Savant
    Oct 13, 2008
    37,035
    Elkton, MD
    Good choice on components. Buy once cry once. That being said good parts don't mean all the parts will work together well. It's not the cost, it is how the sum of parts interact together.

    The Centurion rails antirotation tabs may have to be trimmed to work on the vltor MUR. May.
     

    Bountied

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 6, 2012
    7,215
    Pasadena
    Would that save money? Would replacing parts like a trigger or compensator on said "high end gun" void the warranty?
    I have a list like this too...except with modestly priced parts...

    ty
    Not sure if it would save money per se but you know the gun is going to work (hopefully) right out of the box. I like the LWRC ambi offerings, the DI series won't break the bank and the trigger it comes with is pretty good. I'm not sure about the warranties I guess that would be a case by case for the different companies.

    If your goal is to save money then you wouldn't be going crazy on the parts list like the OP. You build a solid rifle for under $750 if you find good deals on quality parts.
     

    frdfandc

    Fish It
    Aug 27, 2011
    3,374
    Elkton, MD
    My first AR was a budget build. My 2nd AR was a budget purchase. My 3rd AR was a DD. But this happened over a period of a couple of years.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,761
    Glen Burnie
    Would that save money? Would replacing parts like a trigger or compensator on said "high end gun" void the warranty?
    I have a list like this too...except with modestly priced parts...

    ty
    Both of the builds above are solid builds, albeit budget builds.

    I got a lot of the parts from PSA, but they have a decent barrels - Faxon on the left, Ballistic Advantage on the right.
    Flash suppressors are basic A2 birdcages - not sure the brand - didn't seem like it mattered that much.
    BCGs are Toolcraft.
    Triggers are the PSA EPT with a set of JP reduced springs.
    Handguards are PSA.
    Lower parts kits are PSA
    Gas blocks are Yankee Hill
    Grip and stock are Magpul
    Charging handles are a Radian Raptor and the PSA copy of the Radian Raptor, which IMO might be a bit better.
    Optics are an Athlon Talos 1-4x24 and a Victoptics S6 1-6x24.

    All in all I'd say that both are probably 1 MOA guns - my son and I have repeatedly ripped quarter sized 10-shot groups at 50 yards with them, and I have yet to have a malfunction with either, but I'd say that the round count on each is probably less than 1000.
     

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